So now that Drake is 1-2 in major rap beef where the highest you rank him ?

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VD and Scotty managed to out shitpost TC

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Scotty_Rogers posted...
lil nas x is a mainstream rapper

you can't put him in the same sentence as a backpack rapper like tyler lol
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lil nas x's spotify streams are that low? well i guess homophobia could be a factor

post malone then
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Post Malone still posts rap? Huh, didn't know that.
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Tyler the Creator is as mainsteam as it gets lol.
Gwynevere posted...
VD and Scotty managed to out shitpost TC

Impressive
Idk how they manage to shitpost constantly and consistently for years

Scotty has produced some of the most ridiculous content this website has ever seen and never stops
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projectpat72988 posted...
Tyler the Creator is as mainsteam as it gets lol.

less than 50m streams isn't as mainstream as it gets lol
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Wishbone posted...
None of this is in my lane, but yeah pretty much. I couldn't name you 48 other pop stars or 49 other bands so point is kinda moot. I assume Survivor is indeed considered one of the best reality television shows so uhh... Yeah.
Then assume I'm fucking talking about something you are familiar with.

If you ask people to name the best X, Y, or Z, very few people are going to list the factually best selling whatever and call it a day. Very few people are going to have 2010s Call of Dutys and Maddens on their best video games of all time lists. No one is going to name the Macarena as one of the clear best 90s songs. "But it's popular so it has to be good!" Nope.
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TheGoldenEel posted...
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he was mainstream in his day, which was well before the spotify era

nowadays he's a legacy act, his music is old
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TheGoldenEel posted...
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wow this is the first ive heard of unknown niche artist Snoop Dog because he only has 28 million listeners

Its hilarious that Snoop still has more listeners than Lil Nas X who scotty tried to prop up
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What does V_D get out of not shutting the fuck up and keeping his absolutely worthless comments from polluting my Internet?

I know he cares what others think about him even less than he cares about the lives of trans people, but I'm still curious.
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the fact he only has 28m goes to show he's not relevant anymore

snoop's time was 90s to 2000s, before spotify
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
the fact he only has 28m goes to show he's not relevant anymore

snoop's time was 90s to 2000s, before spotify
Still more than Lil Nas X bud

you know, that guy you claimed is more mainstream than tyler lmao
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
the fact he only has 28m goes to show he's not relevant anymore

snoop's time was 90s to 2000s, before spotify
So Lil Nas X is relevant and mainstream, but one person with more streams than him is some obscure indie act and another is an outdated legacy act? What?
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hockeybabe89 posted...
So Lil Nas X is relevant and mainstream, but one person with more streams than him is some obscure indie act and another is an outdated legacy act? What?
Scotty literally embarrasses himself for our entertainment on a daily basis
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Gwynevere posted...
VD and Scotty managed to out shitpost TC

Impressive

I only started shit posting when I realized I was arguing with people who werent qualified to have this conversation on the first place.

ive given anyone who gave an intelligent response a legit answer
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hockeybabe89 posted...
So Lil Nas X is relevant and mainstream, but one person with more streams than him is some obscure indie act and another is an outdated legacy act? What?

i already implied lil nas x may not quite be mainstream like i originally thought lol
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gamepimp12 posted...
I only started shit posting when I realized I was arguing with people who werent qualified to have this conversation on the first place.

ive given anyone who gave an intelligent response a legit answer

More like you realized your takes were awful and are trying to save face
I have nothing else to say
drake doesn't have a music video like redman - i'll bee dat so he's objectively worse.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
More like you realized your takes were awful and are trying to save face

Dude Im pretty sure you said drake wouldnt have a successful rap career in the mid 2000.

Not knowing in 2006 drake was already considered a rising star and one of the hottest Indy rap artist.

Your opinion specifically doesnt matter here since youve already proved youre outta your wheel house.
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drake riding wayne's coattails definitely helped imo.

you guys remember mixtape wayne? what a time to be alive.
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ironman2009 posted...
drake riding wayne's coattails definitely helped imo.

you guys remember mixtape wayne? what a time to be alive.
Remember drake and futures mixtape that was literally called what a time to be alive

what a time to be alive
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
less than 50m streams isn't as mainstream as it gets lol

You use a different version of mainstream then. You don't just suddenly not become mainstream because you're not AS popular now. On a certain platform that is.

Just scroll through random shit on Spotify.

Third Eye Blind 5 million streams. Mainstream af.

Hell Eminem has 66 million so he's barely making the cut.

Mac Miller....24 million.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Remember drake and futures mixtape that was literally called what a time to be alive

what a time to be alive

i didn't til you reminded of me of it.

i gotta go back through my burnt mixtapes and see what i got in there, it's gotta be atleast 10 years since i last looked at my collection.
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hockeybabe89 posted...
Then assume I'm fucking talking about something you are familiar with.

If you ask people to name the best X, Y, or Z, very few people are going to list the factually best selling whatever and call it a day. Very few people are going to have 2010s Call of Dutys and Maddens on their best video games of all time lists. No one is going to name the Macarena as one of the clear best 90s songs. "But it's popular so it has to be good!" Nope.
Call of Duty has/had the FPS world in a chokehold. I'm sure many people have the franchise in their greatest games of all time. Same goes for Madden although obviously there's a bit of a monopoly there. Macarena was one of the top dance records of the 90s.

Of course most popular doesn't translate to greatest. Acting as if popularity = bad is ridiculous though. Making trendy songs that most people like is his bag. And he's probably the best rapper to ever do it.

Typing that out felt icky so I feel the need to clarify my restate my initial point which was if he's not in your top FIFTY, you're trolling, not objective, or listen to spoken word with a beat.
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Hypnospace posted...
So Imagine Dragons is among the 50 best rock bands of all time then

depending on how you graded greatest you probably could make that argument.

especially if you break it down by sub genre
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Hypnospace posted...
So Imagine Dragons is among the 50 best rock bands of all time then
I have no idea. Don't listen to rock. But I wouldn't mind you pointing out how you got that from what I said.
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I feel like the only one who knew Drake from Degrassi before he was Drake, which is why I find his entire persona extra hilarious.
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Wishbone posted...
Of course most popular doesn't translate to greatest. Acting as if popularity = bad is ridiculous though
Of course. The Beatles were great. Michael Jackson was great. The Weeknd is pretty great.

Drake is not a top 100 rapper
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projectpat72988 posted...
You use a different version of mainstream then. You don't just suddenly not become mainstream because you're not AS popular now.

If you're no longer popular, then you're no longer mainstream.

projectpat72988 posted...
Third Eye Blind 5 million streams. Mainstream af.

Hell Eminem has 66 million so he's barely making the cut.

They were mainstream back when they were popular, yes.

Now old guys like Eminem are washed up.

Mac Miller....24 million.

He was never that mainstream, no. Mac was never someone with a lot of hit singles and he never even has any platinum albums.
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Eminem's music widely agreed to be trash since Revival in 2017 lol. MMLP2 in 2013 is the last time he was really relevant. He has 66m monthly streams on Spotify so he hasn't completely fallen off, but he's still a legacy act as those streams mainly come from his older material.

Drake is the most mainstream rapper of all. He's had such a prolific career and he still makes popular music.
Post Malone is probably the second most mainstream hip hop artist after Drake.
I would have considered Kanye to still be mainstream now but he tarnished his image with his antics. He still gets a lot of streams on Spotify, over 70m, but streaming isn't the end-all, be-all metric here.
I guess 21 Savage is someone I'd consider mainstream. 56m streams on Spotify is a fair bit more than Tyler's measly 30m. And he does have several hit singles.
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Eminem's music widely agreed to be trash since Revival in 2017 lol. MMLP2 in 2013 is the last time he was really relevant. He has 66m monthly streams on Spotify so he hasn't completely fallen off, but he's still a legacy act as those streams mainly come from his older material.

Drake is the most mainstream rapper of all. He's had such a prolific career and he still makes popular music.
Post Malone is probably the second most mainstream hip hop artist after Drake .
I would have considered Kanye to still be mainstream now but he tarnished his image with his antics. He still gets a lot of streams on Spotify, over 70m, but streaming isn't the end-all, be-all metric here.
I guess 21 Savage is someone I'd consider mainstream. 56m streams on Spotify is a fair bit more than Tyler's measly 30m. And he does have several hit singles.
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Scotty further proving he doesnt know how numbers work
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
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Scotty further proving he doesnt know how numbers work

And you're further proving that you can't read. Bolded:

Scotty_Rogers posted...
Eminem's music widely agreed to be trash since Revival in 2017 lol. MMLP2 in 2013 is the last time he was really relevant. He has 66m monthly streams on Spotify so he hasn't completely fallen off, but he's still a legacy act as those streams mainly come from his older material.

Drake is the most mainstream rapper of all. He's had such a prolific career and he still makes popular music.
Post Malone is probably the second most mainstream hip hop artist after Drake.
I would have considered Kanye to still be mainstream now but he tarnished his image with his antics. He still gets a lot of streams on Spotify, over 70m, but streaming isn't the end-all, be-all metric here.
I guess 21 Savage is someone I'd consider mainstream. 56m streams on Spotify is a fair bit more than Tyler's measly 30m. And he does have several hit singles.

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gamepimp12 posted...
There is no way drake isnt a top 20 rapper or all time, like no question.
Nah. He ain't even a rapper, he's a pop artist.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
And for the most part, Drake ain't rapping about s***. Even with the Meek Mill s***, he didn't win because he was a better rapper, but because he had the bigger hit.
I'm glad you said that since people are lately starting to question if Drake actually won that or if we were bamboozled with how catchy it was.
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
And you're further proving that you can't read. Bolded:
You go entirely by streaming numbers until it doesnt suit your argument lmao shut the fuck up

Go listen to mainstream rap artist lil Nas X
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
You go entirely by streaming numbers

From the start I mentioned other factors like hit singles and album sales. You just suck at reading comprehension and strawman to hide it.
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
From the start I mentioned other factors like hit singles and album sales. You just suck at reading comprehension and strawman to hide it.
Okay so Tyler the creator surely is mainstream with his 2 number one albums, one #2 album and a number 13 single

Strange that you continue to look at his listeners as the reason hes not mainstream while propping up other artists based entirely on their numbers

again shut the fuck up lmao
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me: post malone is probably second most mainstream after drake. also let me clarify streaming isn't the end all be all
ssb: post has more streams than drake so he's more mainstream by your logic. HAH GOTCHA

textbook example of "my reading comprehension is trash" lmao
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Okay so Tyler the creator surely is mainstream with his 2 number one albums, one #2 album and a number 13 single

Strange that you continue to look at his listeners as the reason hes not mainstream while propping up other artists based entirely on their numbers

again shut the fuck up lmao

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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Okay so Tyler the creator surely is mainstream with his 2 number one albums, one #2 album and a number 13 single

bro really said "number 13 single" like that means anything lol

he has only three top 40 hits and the highest only hit 13, "mainstream as it gets" my ass. dude's a triple hit wonder, wow so amazing, cap

a truly mainstream, popular artist that has been in the game for years would have more than ten top 10 hits
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
bro really said "number 13 single" like that means anything lol

he has only three top 40 hits and the highest only hit 13, "mainstream as it gets" my ass. dude's a triple hit wonder, wow so amazing, cap

a truly mainstream, popular artist that has been in the game for years would have more than ten top 10 hits
His lowest debuting album debuted at #5 in 2011. You claimed he disappeared after 2012 and then shifted that to 2015 despite him gaining a massive amount of mainstream popularity since then. You tried to name Lil Nas X as a more mainstream rapper. You dont know what youre talking about.

You dont know what mainstream means. Go write some fan fictions and stay out of music discussion
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
His lowest debuting album debuted at #5 in 2011.

lol now you gotta backpedal to albums XD

an album hitting no 1 doesn't mean very much by itself; you can sell more than everyone else that week, but unless the sales themselves are high, it's not impressive.

name a single tyler album to debut with hundreds of thousands of copies sold in its first week, right that never happened because he's not a huge rapper regardless of how much you cope

ssb_yunglink2 posted...
You claimed he disappeared after 2012

never claimed that. like i said you can't read, cope more

and then shifted that to 2015 despite him gaining a massive amount of mainstream popularity since then.

the thing is, he didn't gain a massive amount of popularity since then. you just don't know what the words "mainstream" or "popular" means, next
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