Online for sure but irl I'm struggling to think of anyone who I know who wasn't hiding behind a veil of being an edgy jokester and were serious I mean the people who were being edgy could have been closely legit serious but I can't really confirm thatwasn't there some CE person a little while ago that called into DToast's work or something like that? Or maybe it was a lead moderator or something. That's pretty messed up