We're making progress with him fellas. They are at least admitting it is racist now.Nah i find it way worse that they admit its racism but are still defending it
Shut the fuck up with your victim complex.
Oh fuck off, I'm not okay with racism in the slightest. I just think that white nerds see someone who handled something in an inappropriate manner and get all ass blasted when the truth is, we face that same shit all the fucking time, it's just not as explicit. AND while I genuinely believe this woman's heart was in the right place, when it's white dudes at the top, they do it because they straight up don't believe that black people could have the talent for this kind of thing.Handled something in an inappropriate manner is a crazy phrase to describe literal racism. If im a white nerd because im shitting on loud and proud racism, then okay lmao
Oh fuck off, I'm not okay with racism in the slightest. I just think that white nerds see someone who handled something in an inappropriate manner and get all ass blasted when the truth is, we face that same shit all the fucking time, it's just not as explicit. AND while I genuinely believe this woman's heart was in the right place, when it's white dudes at the top, they do it because they straight up don't believe that black people could have the talent for this kind of thing.
There are probably people in here who act like white nerds in the industry may as well be forced to use nasty, shitty bathrooms in disrepair and be denied a promotion that they deserve just because a black woman somewhere did something kinda dumb, for justifiable reasons.
Damn...y'all may as well be getting lynched out here.
There are probably people in here who act like white nerds in the industry may as well be forced to use nasty, shitty bathrooms in disrepair and be denied a promotion that they deserve just because a black woman somewhere did something kinda dumb, for justifiable reasons.???? what is this even in response to
Damn...y'all may as well be getting lynched out here.
Every time any one of color uses their voice in any industry like this, they always come out in droves, don't be fucking stupid.
Every time any one of color uses their voice in any industry like this, they always come out in droves, don't be fucking stupid.Oh so youre back to thinking that her comments were acceptable and that shes being unfairly attacked. Great.
You know damn well what this is a response to.No i dont lmao. You just cant say that shes racist and instead go on some weird unrelated tangent about white nerds
i wonder if this is a culture war fake news bullshit thats dredged up some old post to misrepresent a- oh would you look at thatIike this kinda thing doesn't happen all the time to ruin someone's career or public standing
I think it's fine for her to say she wants to hire specifically black devs, especially if her content is supposed to have a black focus.This. its the specific exclusion of white people that makes the comment so wack and unacceptable
I think where she fucked up (and where the alt-right is gonna have a field day) is by explicitly excluding specifically white people. That's just not a good look, even if it was fueled less by genuine spite and more out of wanting to give PoC opportunities.
No im getting racism from the fact that shes not hiring white people because they are white. Not their personality, not their skills, but their skin color. That is racist.Wasnt it because of specific lived experiences relevant to the game they were making, rather than solely based on skin color? I didnt watch the video though so idk what she said other than the misleading clickbait title
Tell me how explicitly not hiring someone because they are white is not racist.
Oh fuck off, I'm not okay with racism in the slightest .
Iike this kinda thing doesn't happen all the time to ruin someone's career or public standinghuh
Then why don't people use their fucking energy to combat racism that hurts way more in the industry than some black woman who did the wrong thing for the right reasons? Like you see WAY more people assblasted about this rather than the lack of black people in the industry, it coming out that there has been racial discrimination in several prominent studios, and so on. It's like no one cares until this woman said this shit and suddenly this is the worst thing ever.
Wasnt it because of specific lived experiences relevant to the game they were making, rather than solely based on skin color? I didnt watch the video though so idk what she said other than the misleading clickbait titleShe says its safest to be with people exactly like her and that white people will engage in micro aggressions and thus harm the safe environment, and this is why she doesnt hire white people.
She says its safest to be with people exactly like her and that white people will engage in micro aggressions and thus harm the safe environment, and this is why she doesnt hire white people.Sounds like DEI training might be more helpful rather than a blanket exclusion for hiring practices.
Look, if this is an opinion you want to have of a friend group or something thats perfectly fine to me. But when it comes to work, you just simply cannot exclude people because of your preconceived notions about their skin color.
the most important part is that it's only illegal because she explicitly stated that was her intention. all she'd have to do is shut up and say "oh, I hadn't noticed", and there would probably be no case unless there was something else documented to prove it. that's how so many companies have gotten away with hiring 90+% white people for the last 20+ years
She says its safest to be with people exactly like her and that white people will engage in micro aggressions and thus harm the safe environment, and this is why she doesnt hire white people.ah, see, i had an open mind about all this up until reading this. if this is the case, and it's not just trying to support underrepresented groups in the industry, then yeah, benefit of the doubt gone. that's a shame.
I said "people," not you specifically. I saw your topic.
Anyway, I'm mad because every time something like this come up, all the racists come out and use it to justify their bullshit, not to mention, like I said, people just conveniently ignore why exactly someone felt like it was necessary to do this. I don't doubt there's probably tons of idiots making games, sharing shitty racist memes when they think no one's looking, making microaggressions, saying shitty racist things to get a rise out of people.
Wasnt it because of specific lived experiences relevant to the game they were making, rather than solely based on skin color? I didnt watch the video though so idk what she said other than the misleading clickbait title
Anti-racists, who hate racism and racists, suddenly don't really care about racism. And oh, will you look at that, this particular racism is actually justified, to combat potential, unjustified racism. Hell, it's not even racism.
We hold our own accountable, "this person doesn't have power to enact her racism, so this isn't worth mentioning, and mentioning it probably says something negative about you". No, we will not call for this racists job, no fucking way, are you kidding me. We will shrug our shoulders and criticize anything other than the blatant racism we would normally criticize. God, we fucking hate racism and racist scum, God hate them so much.
How is that not racist?
counter-racism
Ok, that's fine. Thank you for being understanding and not pointing your finger at me and implicating that I'm racist when I'm one of the most anti-racist people here.Fucking LMAO, what is even going on anymore. You're defending racist hiring practices while simultaneously calling everyone who is calling you out on that a racist, and now you're claiming you're the most anti-racist person here.
Ok, that's fine. Thank you for being understanding and not pointing your finger at me and implicating that I'm racist when I'm one of the most anti-racist people here.
I just think it's odd how people get their arms in a bunch over this, however justifiable it may be, when this is literally the reality for black people basically everywhere. And even if we do get put in higher positions, those are literally the exception and not the rule.
I got a little emotional, I'll admit. But my point was always that this kind of thing happens in reverse, far more often, just behind closed doors, and is far more harmful considering that this is just one smaller studio. But people act like it just doesn't happen.
1. This was a video from 2+ years ago for another game separate from the Black Panther game
2. Libs of Tik Tok(noted propagandist anti-trans bigot Twitter channel hosted by a moron that can't answer what bad shit is happening in schools that they're so against) dug up this video that had no prior interaction until now
3. She's not a lead on anything, she's an assistant in a far down the totem pole position & has basically no control over the game's development & will have minimal impact on it's fruition
4. Black people wanting their own space with like minded people isn't racism, but her trying to only hire black people is. Good thing she has next to no actual power over anything.
Think I covered everything for today's outrage bullshit magnet.
PS: Asmongold is fresh off of milking content about sweet baby inc so he can smell that rage bait performative conservative action in the water with him like the bottom feeder he is. I challenge anyone to find a more useless mouth to listen to for information than him
Oh boy, we've got a "you can't be racist to white people" dude in here. It's sure to elevate the discussion.
Man I thought this Gamergate bullshit died out years ago. I really don't understand why people give a shitSeeing as how this thread isn't going to die out anyways I might as well respond to this.
Seeing as how this thread isn't going to die out anyways I might as well respond to this.
It's because it started off again with a DEI consulting company called Sweet Baby Inc doing advisements for a lot of game developers & companies. But the thing the far right racist people pushing this connection don't understand is that just because a company is consulting on something, doesn't mean the receiver acted on it at all. Consulting, in my opinion, is pretty fucking meaningless & a fluff job.
Someone pays you to give your opinion on something you don't really need to be credited or professional on, & you tell them how to make themselves appeal more to demographics or sectors of the economy. They get their check for doing basically nothing besides a speaking gig, you go around the industry doing it to all of them.
But the far right thinks this is some broader plan to wokeify the entire gaming industry & that it must be the reason everything bad is happening in regards to layoffs & game quality getting worse in AAA spaces & so on. And it only takes assholes like Assmonshit to propagate it, or when unfortunately people like Mutahar take a centrist position on something that doesn't need a wishy-washy middle ground.
They find that one single solitary spark they were searching for to make a culture war that doesn't meaningful fix anything, & we're right back into gamergate 2.0 because history is a circle. The woman in that bullshit mischaracterized video just helped them add more fuel to the fire.
If it was really that easy, everybody would be doing it. I get some hefty fees from being a consultant sometimes. However, I do have the relevant qualifications and experience.
Seems like the kinda job someone could get without qualifications or experience provided they know the right people. In other words sounds more like getting the job is the hard part