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Hello, Current Events. It's that time of the year again. The stars are out for the biggest night in Tinseltown - the Quality Cinema Warrior Awards!

If you are unfamiliar with us, we began our awards in 2015 as a response to Board 227's (where these awards are also being posted) deluge of discussions centered on theatrical content, particularly that of superheroes and 80s/90s nostalgia bait, instead of cinema. I found all of this quite disheartening and organized a special team of Quality Cinema Warriors (named so because everyone was frothing at the mouth over the evils of "Social Justice Warriors" at the time - embarrassing!) and started a ranked choice vote of ten Best Picture nominees and five Best [everything else]. We've added some categories and streamlined some of the voting process with category frauds and whatnot over the years. If you would like to view some of our voting history, check the links below:

1932: 1970: (not linkable sadly - was announced solely on our Discord - but Trouble in Paradise won)
1948: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1283-quality-cinema-club/78333521 (The Red Shoes)
1955: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1283-quality-cinema-club/77379282 (Pather Panchali)
1960: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1283-quality-cinema-club/76817599 (The Apartment)
1970: (not linkable sadly - was announced solely on our Discord - but Five Easy Pieces won)
1984: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1283-quality-cinema-club/77843274 (TIE: Stop Making Sense / Paris, Texas)
1997: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1283-quality-cinema-club/78836004 (Jackie Brown)
2014: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/228-movies-home-media/73754150 (Boyhood)
2015: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/73102774 (Mad Max: Fury Road)
2016: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/74905507 (Manchester by the Sea)
2017: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/76354023 (Phantom Thread)
2018: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/77507475 (First Reformed)
2019: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/78434340 (Parasite)
2020: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/79309039 (Portrait of a Lady on Fire)
2021: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-at-the-theater/79955689 (Drive My Car)
2022: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/227-movies-new-and-upcoming-releases/80376503 (The Fabelmans)

Shoutout to the following users for voting:

BigLargeHuge
Brett8
capri
confusedteddybear
GrandTheftPikmin
Kastrada
madadude
rockus
Pus_N_Pecans
thesmark88
wetwillies
[guy not on GameFAQs]
[guy whose username I don't remember sorry]

The awards will begin shortly! Do you have any predictions? :O
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I recognize one of those users.
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Foppe posted...
I recognize one of those users.

i think only one might post on CE sometimes
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ok everyone time for the first two awards !!!!!!!!!!!

Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role

Swann Arlaud as Vincent Renzi in Anatomy of a Fall

Robert De Niro as William King Hale in Killers of the Flower Moon

Milo Machado-Graner as Daniel Maleski in Anatomy of a Fall

Mark Ruffalo as Duncan Wedderburn in Poor Things

Donnie Yen as Caine in John Wick: Chapter 4

And the award goes to...

Robert De Niro!!! text text text text text text i think this is his first win... ? he might have won in 2019 for i heard you paint houses idk

Best Achievement in Editing

Mario Battistel, The Taste of Things

Eddie Hamilton, Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning

Barney Pilling, Asteroid City

Thelma Schoonmaker, Killers of the Flower Moon

Laurent Snchal, Anatomy of a Fall

And the award goes to...

Thelma Schoonmaker!!! Killers of the Flower Moon!!! also might have been a winner in 2019... don't remember sorry i have a poor memory
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Seems she got banned two years ago.
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Foppe posted...
Seems she got banned two years ago.

may she rirl (rest in real life). we have two more awards. @bsp77 @billycorgan you guys should see this and get upset btw

Best Production Design

Tamara Deverell, Priscilla

Jack Fisk, Killers of the Flower Moon

Sarah Greenwood, Barbie

Ville Grnroos, Fallen Leaves

Shona Heath & James Price, Poor Things

Adam Stockhausen, Asteroid City

And the award goes to...

Adam Stockhausen!!! Asteroid City!!! he previously won for the french dispatch

Best Animated Feature

Hayao Miyazaki's The Boy and the Heron

Peter Sohn's Elemental

Nick Bruno and Troy Quane's Nimona

Joaquim dos Santos, Kemp Powers, & Justin K. Thompson's Spider-Man: Across the Spider-verse

Makoto Shinkai's Suzume

And the award goes to....

The Boy and the Heron!!! lololololololololololol gfy spider-man!!!!!!!!!!
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Some pretty shitty nominations in there
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bsp77 posted...
Some pretty shitty nominations in there

you really think so? where?
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Zithers posted...
you really think so? where?
I love De Niro, but he was not even close to the best supporting actor this year. And 2 nominations from Anatomy of a Fall? They were serviceable (the kid is really good for a kid though). And Donnie Yen? Get the fuck out of here. I loved that movie and his character, but c'mon

Fallen Leaves - great movie. Production design? Lolol

The editing category is all kinds of fucked up.

Like, who the hell are these voters?
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bsp77 posted...
I love De Niro, but he was not even close to the best supporting actor this year. And 2 nominations from Anatomy of a Fall? They were serviceable (the kid is really good for a kid though). And Donnie Yen? Get the fuck out of here. I loved that movie and his character, but c'mon

Fallen Leaves - great movie. Production design? Lolol

The editing category is all kinds of fucked up.

Like, who the hell are these voters?

well production design is about sets. fallen leaves had some good sets dude. aki kaurismaki is like a scandinavian more chill wes anderson with the sets and 35mm photography and nice colors.

what's wrong with donnie yen? he has loads of charisma and has great physicality obviously, which is necessary for the role. you don't think de niro was good... ? who were some of you preferred supporting actors this year?
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Top 7 to show De Niro

Robert Downey Jr (Oppenheimer)
Mark Ruffalo (Poor Things)
Ryan Gosling (Barbie)
Charles Melton (May December)
Dominic Sessa (The Holdovers)
Sterling K Brown (American Fiction)
Robert De Niro (Killers)
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bsp77 posted...
Top 7 to show De Niro

Robert Downey Jr (Oppenheimer)
Mark Ruffalo (Poor Things)
Ryan Gosling (Barbie)
Charles Melton (May December)
Dominic Sessa (The Holdovers)
Sterling K Brown (American Fiction)
Robert De Niro (Killers)

well, we had sessa, melton, and gosling categorized as leads... there are various scenes in those movies shown from their perspective (what we decided is a lead performence) whereas there isn't really any centering of the movie around de niro or whoever else we nominated.
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Zithers posted...
well, we had sessa, melton, and gosling categorized as leads... there are various scenes in those movies shown from their perspective (what we decided is a lead performence) whereas there isn't really any centering of the movie around de niro or whoever else we nominated.
Oh, well that does help

But where is Robert Downey Jr?

I really did love Fallen Leaves btw. It just feels way too constrained and empty for Production Design
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bsp77 posted...
Oh, well that does help

But where is Robert Downey Jr?

I really did love Fallen Leaves btw. It just feels way too constrained and empty for Production Design

i think 2 of 14 people had rdj on their ballot because he wasn't good in that movie. just doing regular smarmy rdj mugging except it happened to be in a nolan movie.
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Donnie Yen getting a nom but not Willem Dafoe is pretty wild. I love Donnie Yen but come on
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Zithers posted...
i think 2 of 14 people had rdj on their ballot because he wasn't good in that movie. just doing regular smarmy rdj mugging except it happened to be in a nolan movie.
Well, I guess that is an opinion
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Zithers posted...
[guy not on GameFAQs]
[guy whose username I don't remember sorry]
best voters

Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm.
Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland!
got some real boring categories rn. let's do this

Best Debut Feature

Savanah Leaf's Earth Mama

Saim Sadiq's Joyland

Celine Song's Past Lives

David Easteal's The Plains

Joaquim dos Santos, Kemp Powers, & Justin K. Thompson's Spider-Man: Across the Spider-verse

And the award goes to...

Saim Sadiq and Joyland!!! lololololololol gfy again spider-man you pos

Best Documentary Feature

Lucien Castaing-Taylor & Vrna Paravel's De Humani Corporis Fabrica

David Easteal's The Plains

Jacquelyn Mills' Geographies of Solitude

Frederick Wiseman's Menus-Plaisirs - Les Troisgros

And the award goes to...

Menus-Plaisirs - Les Troisgros!!! think this is our first wiseman win gg old man
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Zithers posted...
[guy whose username I don't remember sorry]
I fucking love this guy.
currently waiting for my turn in Master Duel.
Is JJJ commenting on these or something?
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Donnie Yen getting a nom but not Willem Dafoe is pretty wild. I love Donnie Yen but come on

i'm surprised/disappointed you and bsp are siding with the oscar-y movies and choices instead of our more iconoclastic picks

thought some common ground would be discovered

sad
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Idk how Poor Things is an Oscar-y movie other than it being nominated for the Oscars. If anything I'm surprised it got nominated to begin with.

I do think the Emma Stone praise is way over stated. That was some Simple Jack levels of acting at times and if she beats out Lily Gladstone that will be really disappointing.
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Idk how Poor Things is an Oscar-y movie other than it being nominated for the Oscars. If anything I'm surprised it got nominated to begin with.

I do think the Emma Stone praise is way over stated. That was some Simple Jack levels of acting at times and if she beats out Lily Gladstone that will be really disappointing.

being nominated for oscars makes you an oscar-y movie i think. that's just yorgos' deal now with b2b best pic nominations.
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Zithers posted...
being nominated for oscars makes you an oscar-y movie i think. that's just yorgos' deal now with b2b best pic nominations.
You basically just said that it is impossible for a non-oscar-y movie to be nominated, because as soon as it is nominated...

I feel like you are just trolling us sometimes
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That's pretty much the same thing as saying Oscar Bait which, imo, is bad criticism. Come on dawg
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bsp77 posted...
You basically just said that it is impossible for a non-oscar-y movie to be nominated, because as soon as it is nominated...

I feel like you are just trolling us sometimes

idk man. the favourite was nominated for and won some oscars last time he made a movie. seemed obvious to me that poor things would likely be a frontrunner before anyone even saw it. and then it got good reviews. and then it was nominated for a shitload of oscars. not sure how this is trolling.
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Zithers posted...
idk man. the favourite was nominated for and won some oscars last time he made a movie. seemed obvious to me that poor things would likely be a frontrunner before anyone even saw it. and then it got good reviews. and then it was nominated for a shitload of oscars. not sure how this is trolling.
Not commenting on Yorgos. I am commenting on your general explanation

Zithers posted...
being nominated for oscars makes you an oscar-y movie i think

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TC loves sitting around in a cloud of his own farts
So! You want to hear a story, eh?
bsp77 posted...
Not commenting on Yorgos. I am commenting on your general explanation

yeah i mean they're the well reviewed, well marketed movies with all of the big guild screenings and q&a's. then they hog up all the nominations for everything. figured you guys would enjoy something a little fresher.

guess that's on me for having expectations
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Zithers posted...
yeah i mean they're the well reviewed, well marketed movies with all of the big guild screenings and q&a's. then they hog up all the nominations for everything. figured you guys would enjoy something a little fresher.

guess that's on me for having expectations
You keep ignoring what you said. You said as soon as the movie is nominated for an Oscar, it's an Oscar type movie. Therefore a non Oscar movie being nominated for an Oscar doesn't exist.

There are always a few surprising Oscar nominations every year, but you have just discounted all of them with some weird circular argument
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Was John Wick 4 not well reviewed or well marketed? Lol
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Was John Wick 4 not well reviewed or well marketed? Lol
It definitely was. If it was up to me, I would nominate it for best picture, best director, best cinematography, best sound, and best editing. And it is really a shame that there is not a nomination for something surrounding stunt work
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Was John Wick 4 not well reviewed or well marketed? Lol

marketed with fyc campaigns bro. that's why i mentioned the screenings and whatnot to get votes. lionsgate obv isn't throwing their weight behind pushing wick for oscars lmao.
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Its a weird distinction. A movie is an Oscar-y movie because they campaigned for it to be nominated for the Oscars. Uh, okay? still doesn't detract from Willem Dafoe's performance in comparison to Donnie Yen's lol
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Maybe I can get behind Donnie Yen. If I was forced to nominate an actor from the movie, I would choose him. When I rewatch the movie I will think about it
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Its a weird distinction. A movie is an Oscar-y movie because they campaigned for it to be nominated for the Oscars. Uh, okay? still doesn't detract from Willem Dafoe's performance in comparison to Donnie Yen's lol

yeah donnie's was better.

anyway i apologize that we do not line up w oscar stuff 100%. hope the rest of this topic isn't too hard on you.
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Zithers posted...
yeah donnie's was better.
You can lie to us but don't lie to yourself player
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bsp77 posted...
But where is Robert Downey Jr?

I really did love Fallen Leaves btw. It just feels way too constrained and empty for Production Design

Robert Downey Jr.'s performance is just a handful of lame scenery chewing rants, it's hardly one of the best of the year.

Kaurismki's production design is always fire. The award is for Best Production Design, not Most Production Design. Fallen Leaves is definitely worthy of being recognized.
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I didn't have Yen on my ballot, but he would have come before RDJ or Dafoe. If the people of CE want Poor Things representation, I did have Ruffalo and Kathryn Hunter (supporting actress) on my ballot, and had it at second for production design, behind Asteroid City.
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I'm surprised people are upset about Donnie Yen. It's a brilliant performance, emotionally and physically. Not just in the physicality required for the long takes and fight choreography but for the small gestures and mannerisms he adds to his character. Full of personality, grace, and style. Tragic that even Gamefaqs can't celebrate a performance like that in a genre movie.
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rockus posted...
I'm surprised people are upset about Donnie Yen. It's a brilliant performance, emotionally and physically. Not just in the physicality required for the long takes and fight choreography but for the small gestures and mannerisms he adds to his character. Full of personality, grace, and style. Tragic that even Gamefaqs can't celebrate a performance like that in a genre movie.
You sound exactly the same as Zithers

BTW, I did say that I would think about Donnie Yen more on a rewatch. I admit that I might not have been open to his acting on my initial watch.
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Brett8 posted...
I didn't have Yen on my ballot, but he would have come before RDJ or Dafoe. If the people of CE want Poor Things representation, I did have Ruffalo and Kathryn Hunter (supporting actress) on my ballot, and had it at second for production design, behind Asteroid City.

Yeah, I had Ruffalo as well and thought Hunter was great. I love Dafoe and I appreciate the surprising warmth in his performance but I didn't think it was close to one of the top of the year. De Niro is brilliant though. I also had Reinartz from Anatomy of a Fall and Yue Yunpeng from Full River Red who gives such a great weaselly performance.

Robert Downey Jr. wouldn't even have been my choice for a supporting performance from Oppenheimer. I probably would have went with Krumholtz or Affleck if I had to pick someone from it, but I wasn't that big on Oppenheimer anyway outside of Murphy who is admittedly really good. I'm with Zithers on Downey Jr.'s mugging tbh. Now if we were talking about Robert Downey Jr.'s brilliant performance in Wonder Boys, then he'd probably be on my ballot.

bsp77 posted...
You sound exactly the same as Zithers

I mean, I voted for Donnie Yen so...
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I don't hate Downey Jr. in Oppenheimer, but I think by and large Nolan still doesn't let his characters be human enough for me to find anything to blow me away in the resulting performances. Love it or hate it or in between, I think the direction makes Oppenheimer what it is far more so than any of the performances. The performances were uniformly solid and did what they needed to do--and, spoiler, it did make my ensemble ballot--but none individually electrified me.
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Brett8 posted...
I don't hate Downey Jr. in Oppenheimer, but I think by and large Nolan still doesn't let his characters be human enough for me to find anything to blow me away in the resulting performances. Love it or hate it or in between, I think the direction makes Oppenheimer what it is far more so than any of the performances. The performances were uniformly solid and did what they needed to do--and, spoiler, it did make my ensemble ballot--but none individually electrified me.
I think this is fair criticism even if I don't completely agree.

Believe it or not, I am always open to learning and admitting I was wrong after hearing counterpoints and doing a rewatch.
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bsp77 posted...
Top 7 to show De Niro

Robert Downey Jr (Oppenheimer)
Mark Ruffalo (Poor Things)
Ryan Gosling (Barbie)
Charles Melton (May December)
Dominic Sessa (The Holdovers)
Sterling K Brown (American Fiction)
Robert De Niro (Killers)

I loved Sessa, Melton, and Gosling's performances but I considered them all co-leads. Sessa being campaigned in so many current awards for supporting is the most egregious awards category fraud since like Hailee Steinfeld being campaigned as supporting for True Grit. He's fantastic in the movie but he's definitely a lead in it.

Brett8 posted...
I don't hate Downey Jr. in Oppenheimer, but I think by and large Nolan still doesn't let his characters be human enough for me to find anything to blow me away in the resulting performances. Love it or hate it or in between, I think the direction makes Oppenheimer what it is far more so than any of the performances. The performances were uniformly solid and did what they needed to do--and, spoiler, it did make my ensemble ballot--but none individually electrified me.

This is one of my issues with Oppenheimer overall. I would have liked to see a movie on the subject that allows itself to breathe a little more but Nolan's take on the material just isn't what I would want out of it. All about the mechanisms of the nuclear race, dolling out information as fast as possible, and telling you how important every moment is. I like the notion of the themes it's looking at with politics inhibiting personal lives, and grappling with the guilt over the destructive potential of their work in the pursuit of scientific discovery. But I didn't really get anything out of the way Nolan examines any of it. Miyazaki's The Wind Rises from years ago does something really interesting with that sort of thing in a much more personal way that I don't think Nolan is really equipped to do tbh.
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rockus posted...
I loved Sessa, Melton, and Gosling's performances but I considered them all co-leads. Sessa being campaigned in so many current awards for supporting is the most egregious awards category fraud since like Hailee Steinfeld being campaigned as supporting for True Grit. He's fantastic in the movie but he's definitely a lead in it.
All fair. I was going by the Oscar designations, right or wrong.

But I really didn't think RDJ was chewing the scenery.

I apologize for being obnoxious in my first couple posts here. Just my typical love/hate messaging with Zithers lol
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I'll also say that the awards and noms--by their nature and appropriately--being consensus, it papers over a lot of disagreement and diversity of opinion within the group of people voting. I think at one point we were split 6-5 or 6-6 whether to count Melton as lead or supporting, so while we have to make a call to avoid a great performance getting no or less recognition from the arbitrariness of being split between categories, those calls can be close. And the same is true of voting--a widely selected choice can best something that only half of us loved, or something that a few people really loved can punch above its weight if everyone else is split.
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Brett8 posted...
I'll also say that the awards and noms--by their nature and appropriately--being consensus, it papers over a lot of disagreement and diversity of opinion within the group of people voting. I think at one point we were split 6-5 or 6-6 whether to count Melton as lead or supporting, so while we have to make a call to avoid a great performance getting no or less recognition from the arbitrariness of being split between categories, those calls can be close. And the same is true of voting--a widely selected choice can best something that only half of us loved, or something that a few people really loved can punch above its weight if everyone else is split.

yea

i am also writing up a "jury/festival" winner list when we are done which will only give one award per movie so you can see where exactly we fall on a lot of other stuff. it'll likely be much more illuminating to our tastes than the consensus picks
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