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Billyionaire posted...
Car-loving man seen running scared from murderous SUV driver

You see why this is a weird thing to "get" someone with?

You're suggesting the man shouldn't have run away but rather towards the maniac with the gun?
Yes, towards the safety of more guns. His policy is more guns make everyone safer. Guns brandished and bullets flying isnt that safer than the womb?
Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid?
DemonBuffet posted...
If the threat is right at your face, then yeah I can understand the idea of teaching what you preach and fire back.
But if you have ever gone to any type of training or school in regards to guns, they will teach you that a handgun is best used as a defensive weapon. Because if you try to fight against an assault rifle with your handgun, you are very likely to lose.
I dont know if you have seen some of the mass shooting videos online, but its usually law enforcement with assault rifles that neutralize the threat.
So again, if a man who conceal carries a handgun, going out of his way to be a hero, to look for a shooter or multiple shooters, whom probably have much for firepower, is very foolish.

There difference is, while I do conceal carry, I don't go on and on about how "I'm a good guy with a gun" who can stop situations like this from occuring. I do it specifically to protect myself and my family if the situation arises, which it never has thankfully.

People like this guy has "good guys with guns" as one of his leading arguments for "oh please, don't take our guns away!!!" They always paint themselves as these big heroes that would put themselves between innocent people and someone with a gun, but they never do, they run, they hide, then they continue spouting their "good guys with guns" bullshit.

I'll say it again, if you're going to continuously spout "good guys with guns" as your primary argument and how they can stop these situations, but then turn tail and run away in such a situation, you need to find another argument because you just proved your own argument is complete bullshit.
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His gun must of jammed or he would of saved everybody.
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I dont get this. Most people would run whether armed or not. No one is mentally trained for combat unless they're a cop or something
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Conflict resolution. Escape is first priority, engage only if needed. So he did nothing wrong, added less to the chaos
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NeonBoobs posted...
I dont get this. Most people would run whether armed or not. No one is mentally trained for combat unless they're a cop or something
Most people, again, don't go on about how a good guy with a gun can stop it and carry for that exact reason of being that good guy with a gun.

And apparently this guy was a sargent.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Is "running away from a crazed gunman" really a gotcha? It's not like the guy supports mass shootings, he just supports gun rights.

Same thing these days.
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DnDer posted...
Same thing these days.
Not really, no
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Not really, no
Their brand of gun rights, yes.

They want unchecked, unregulated free access to guns. That is asking for this kind of thing to happen
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Is "running away from a crazed gunman" really a gotcha? It's not like the guy supports mass shootings, he just supports gun rights.
No, that fuckstick implicitly supports mass shootings through his policies.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Not really, no

You'll have to work real hard to convince me im wrong.

These people promote unrestricted gun access. They refuse to even put up any kind of red flag laws that would stop people most at risk from committing a mass shooting. And they actively promote the specific platform of weapon that mass shooters love the best, trying to get it out into as many hands as possible.

"Gun rights" is open code for "supports mass shootings, because I need muh gunz."
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MabusIncarnate posted...
This, "good guy with a gun" is an absolute myth, it's more like coward afraid of existing in public.

One stopped the July 17th, 2022 shooting at the Greenwood Park Mall in Indiana. (Two people were killed though before the gunman wounded gunman retreated to the restroom. He too died -- and good riddance.)

They're too few and far between to rely on as an actual defense measure though.
Incidentally, the mall redesigned the food court and the restrooms where the shooting took place.
He reminds me of the Klan guy at the beginning of Bad Boys 2 who yells "Kill those cops!" while running away from the situation as fast as he can.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Is "running away from a crazed gunman" really a gotcha? It's not like the guy supports mass shootings, he just supports gun rights.
Why didn't he step up and be the good guy with a gun?
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you're supposed to run, he is law abiding citizen
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Yes, you are. So why is he one of the ones happily pushing the "good guy with a gun" narrative when that is the exact opposite of any active shooter situation?

It couldn't be because he's a hypocrite. Oh. Wait.

Strange how so many seem to miss his own positions to cover for him.
Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice.
My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on.
PraxagoraKassan posted...
you're supposed to run, he is law abiding citizen

Hello banned alt number #1006.
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Look at the bright side here. If this GOP governor had neatly put down the mass shooter with a head shot, he'd be very likely to become president eventually.
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that's not a gotcha lol

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EPR-radar posted...
Look at the bright side here. If this GOP governor had neatly put down the mass shooter with a head shot, he'd be very likely to become president eventually.
All the more reason for him to risk his life and not be a coward.

Everyone has a plan until they're punched in the face.
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I came into this topic expecting the following.

"Man known for pushing good guy with a gun narrative runs away when given the chance to step up and demonstrate it."
"Of course, he's a hypocrite."
"WHAT WAS HE SUPPOSED TO DO, GUN GRABBERS?!"

I was not disappointed.
Bonus points to Billyionaire. He's been on a roll lately.
Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
MabusIncarnate posted...
This, "good guy with a gun" is an absolute myth, it's more like coward afraid of existing in public.
They do exist. They tend to target robbers in self-Defense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxKYHntHjAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WanvSbJHbWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nkxXc7WKBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K516I70Dio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQCEM6rU-MU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yjnhp2GQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmYWc6ReJbc
Kibouno posted...
They do exist. They tend to target robbers in self-Defense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxKYHntHjAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WanvSbJHbWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nkxXc7WKBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K516I70Dio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQCEM6rU-MU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yjnhp2GQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmYWc6ReJbc

I like how your first video is edited so it doesn't show him executing the unarmed person
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thronedfire2 posted...
I like how your first video is edited so it doesn't show him executing the unarmed person
And one of the videos is a SWAT sniper.
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Kibouno posted...
They do exist.

Nobody claims they DON'T exist. It's a myth that they will be the ones to overwhelmingly stop any "bad guys with a gun."
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
Heineken14 posted...
Nobody claims they DON'T exist. It's a myth that they will be the ones to overwhelmingly stop any "bad guys with a gun."
And plenty of times they also wind up shot because police don't know who the shooter is when they get on the scene.
thronedfire2 posted...
I like how your first video is edited so it doesn't show him executing the unarmed person
That's because it would fly in the face of "self-defense" and "good guy with a gun" to show a public execution.
Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice.
My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on.
thronedfire2 posted...
I like how your first video is edited so it doesn't show him executing the unarmed person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAx9srqTFIs
Kibouno posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAx9srqTFIs

definitely an unbiased source

oh and I skimmed through the video and this one doesn't show the full original video either. it also edits out the execution.
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lol so CE's consensus is that if you conceal carry and support the 2A then you should grab your little pocket rocket and run into any shooting blindly. Threat assessment is not a thing, because I have a Glock 42 with 7 whole rounds!

JFC some of you guys
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yemmy posted...
lol so CE's consensus is that if you conceal carry and support the 2A then you should grab your little pocket rocket and run into any shooting blindly. Threat assessment is not a thing, because I have a Glock 42 with 7 whole rounds!

JFC some of you guys
Why have sensible regulation when you can just run away?
Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid?
yemmy posted...
lol so CE's consensus is that if you conceal carry and support the 2A then you should grab your little pocket rocket and run into any shooting blindly. Threat assessment is not a thing, because I have a Glock 42 with 7 whole rounds!

JFC some of you guys

It's almost like people are calling out the rhetoric gun nuts like this Governor push and then immediately crumple when faced with that situation.... like exactly what people say will happen.

JFC some of you guys.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
yemmy posted...
lol so CE's consensus is that if you conceal carry and support the 2A then you should grab your little pocket rocket and run into any shooting blindly. Threat assessment is not a thing, because I have a Glock 42 with 7 whole rounds!

JFC some of you guys

No. No, that's not right.

It's like you're in the neighborhood, but just on the wrong block.

Follow the conversation over to where we are. You can park on the grass. We'll all be waiting out here. Dogs are on the grill already, we'll make sure to have one for you when you finally get all the way around.
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yemmy posted...
lol so CE's consensus is that if you conceal carry and support the 2A then you should grab your little pocket rocket and run into any shooting blindly. Threat assessment is not a thing, because I have a Glock 42 with 7 whole rounds!

JFC some of you guys

So explain to the class why you're carrying that "pocket rocket" in public to begin with?
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yemmy posted...
lol so CE's consensus

Stopped reading there. Nothing of value was missed.

Kibouno posted...
They do exist. They tend to target robbers in self-Defense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxKYHntHjAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WanvSbJHbWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nkxXc7WKBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K516I70Dio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQCEM6rU-MU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yjnhp2GQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmYWc6ReJbc

Good guy with a gun narrative is not about self-defence.
Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
In fairness, people that are pro-automobile would probably run out of the way if I speed through a crowd running people over.
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yemmy posted...
lol so CE's consensus is that if you conceal carry and support the 2A then you should grab your little pocket rocket and run into any shooting blindly. Threat assessment is not a thing, because I have a Glock 42 with 7 whole rounds!

JFC some of you guys

Maybe he shouldn't campaign on, "good guy with a gun will kill bad guy with a gun and that's why everyone needs a gun" if he's not willing to actually willing to live by it? Seems a tad bit hypocritical no?

He also could have had his small army of officers (people who are trained for these situations) try to stop it too. But nope.
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pjnelson posted...
In fairness, people that are pro-automobile would probably run out of the way if I speed through a crowd running people over.

Do all of you guys literally only have one argument, and it's why you've all been repeating it almost verbatim?
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Is he just supposed to stand there and get shot. Really what was the point of this topic...
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Is he just supposed to stand there and get shot. Really what was the point of this topic...

That the things these people constantly say are wrong.
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
SauI_Goodman posted...
Is he just supposed to stand there and get shot. Really what was the point of this topic...

Might want to actually read it before replying.
Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
pjnelson posted...
In fairness, people that are pro-automobile would probably run out of the way if I speed through a crowd running people over.
In all fairness the more apt comparison is if he campaigned on removing cross walks, traffic signals, regulations against driving on sidewalks to protect the right to drive without government interference and then ran away when a car was barreling down on him. Nothing can be done.
Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid?
ablegator posted...
In all fairness the more apt comparison is if he campaigned on removing cross walks, traffic signals, regulations against driving on sidewalks to protect the right to drive without government interference and then ran away when a car was barreling down on him. Nothing can be done.

Im sure he knew that already.
Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming."
Man, sure are a lot of people that would harp "good guybwith a gun" that are suddenly very upset that one of their loudest voices is being called out on being a hypocrite.

And has already been said, if he changes his stance on GGWAG then a lot of that situation changes. But he will continue pushing that talking point despite not living it himself, as will almost all the people upset about him being called out on his hypocrisy.
Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice.
My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on.
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Oh so you like guns but don't want to be shot, how curious
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That "argument" didn't get any smarter in post 97. This individual is not just someone who "likes" guns but someone who has repeatedly argued that a "good guy with a gun" is the solution to gun violence. And yet, when the chips are on the table for him to prove his narrative this is the result, and afterwards he will be right back to harping the same narrative.
Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice.
My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on.
DemonBuffet posted...
This is a gotcha moment lol?
Conceal carry is for self-defense, not to engage in a fire fight. Especially if you dont know how many shooters or what kind of weapons they have.
Imagine if this guy did try to defend the crowds and went out of his way to look for a shooter engaged with said shooter only to be shot and killed. You guys then would be celebrating how his conceal carried ass got blasted and how funny that is.

Tbh, it feels like they WANTED this to happen based on the replies. They actually seem upset it didnt lol.

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