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MabinogiFan
01/26/2024
08:40 PM
#1
What are your thoughts on homeschooling?
archizzy
01/26/2024
08:42 PM
#2
I have known quite a few kids who were homeschooled. In most instances, not every one but most they ended up with a better education but were a little behind in social skills.
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C_Pain
01/26/2024
08:44 PM
#3
It really depends on the parents. If done well, it's a better education than a lot of public schools. Has potential to be abused though, and there's the social aspect to consider.
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Giacomo_Hawkins
01/26/2024
08:45 PM
#4
I believe that public schools need to be fully funded, and if you choose to homeschool your child feel free to do so, but don't expect financial support from the government, or a break in your taxes. In addition, there should be some measure of accountability and standardized testing to make sure that homeschooled children are receiving an education that will allow them to function in society.
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Japanties
01/26/2024
08:46 PM
#5
I've had this conversation with my sister about whether or not she should home school her kids. With the way American public schooling is right now, you absolutely should home school your kids if you have the resources and ability to do so. I don't see the public schooling system getting better any time soon either.
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01/26/2024
08:48 PM
#6
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K181
01/26/2024
08:56 PM
#7
Homeschooling is just control-freak parental indoctrination that sets up kids to be maladjusted in their teenaged and young adulthood years.

Yes, there are cases where kids turn out fine, but those're the exceptions and not the rule.
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less.
NeonTentacles
01/26/2024
08:57 PM
#8
Probably not good cuz they lose out on the social aspect of going to school
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DarkChozoGhost
01/26/2024
08:58 PM
#9
It's crucial that it's an option, it's horrible that the vast majority of parents that choose it do so for horrible, evil reasons like teaching young Earth creationism.
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SuperSaiyanTien
01/26/2024
09:09 PM
#11
Homeschooling is good if done correctly. Homeschool kids on average score better than traditionally schooled children across the board, including SAT and ACT testing.

Also it is a myth that homeschooled children are socially inept. Research was done in 2019(?) where it showed that 13/15 studies on social development were positive outcomes for homeschooled students compared to traditionally schooled children. Typically parents of homeschooled children put them in groups with other homeschooled children for social interaction or in extra curricular activities where they socialize (karate, boy/girl scouts, sports, etc)

Homeschooling has also been increasing each year because more and more people are recognizing how corrupt our public school system is. It's not a place to learn actual skills, it's a place to rehearse and memorize materials to do well on standardized tests so they can farm money for the district and line the pockets of administration while keeping the teachers - the real soldiers at the frontline - at the poverty level. It's gross.

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MabinogiFan
01/29/2024
12:12 PM
#12
Do teachers still typically homeschool or do the parents? Cause I'm not sure how many parents are qualified to teach.
Xatrion
01/29/2024
12:14 PM
#13
As someone who was homeschooled, bad. Bad, bad, bad. I missed out on so much.
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Cocytus
01/29/2024
12:14 PM
#14
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/29/2024
12:17 PM
#15
I just assume that the home schooled education isn't as good as the public school. How could some parent (likely with no real training) teach mid to high level in all subjects?
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KajeI
01/29/2024
12:24 PM
#16
I swear, I should just make something I can copy paste whenever this topic comes up.
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xlr_big-coop
01/29/2024
12:29 PM
#17
That's something we're definitely considering. I remember going through most of my pre university education just scrapping by, it really felt like I was just wasting my time instead of learning anything. I bet I can do a better job at teaching stem to my children, plus I don't want to let someone else enjoy the better part of their childhoods when I can be there for them.
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Will_VIIII
01/29/2024
12:31 PM
#18
In the US, definitely bad post 2016.
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emblem-man
01/29/2024
12:35 PM
#19
A mix seems nice. If I had the time seems like it'd be good to have some out of school tutoring available for the kid. Especially during the summer
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CervusCanadensi
01/29/2024
12:35 PM
#20
Good academically
Very bad socially

Kids need to play with other kids
IronChef_Kirby
01/29/2024
12:42 PM
#21
I think its very insulting to teachers to act as if popping out a baby magically makes one an expert in pedagogy. Or, does it come out with the equivalent of a masters degree in its hand?

It can be done well, but in general I consider it to be an inferior option to traditional public schooling.
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Sunburst
01/29/2024
12:44 PM
#22
Depends on child and situation. A child can't learn if their being bullied constantly. It should always be an option, but effectiveness will vary.
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TheMikh
01/29/2024
12:44 PM
#23
from what i can gather, if it's taken seriously, the outcomes are generally better by virtue of having the smallest possible class size and plenty of attention dedicated to the development of the pupils

conversely, sometimes it's used for fringe indoctrination, and at least anecdotally speaking, homeschools produce kinda mediocre musicians
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TendoDRM
01/29/2024
12:50 PM
#24
There are exceptions, but generally bad for everyone, same with charter schools.
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Kingfrost
01/29/2024
12:58 PM
#25
I think in the long run, homeschooling is bad. That's not to say it can't have positive effects, but I think the negatives outweigh them in the longrun. Not just from the basis of socialization. I think the lack of academic diversity is also a negative in the longrun. It's not something we'll see over a course of 10-20 years, but over several lifetimes.

Homeschool kids do tend to test well, but many are economically well off combined with the fact that parents tend to have 1 or 2 students vs teachers who have 20+ students per class, and obviously parental involvement in homeschooling is much higher than parental involvement in public schooling. These factors tend to play a bigger part in why homeshcooling does well, less so than failures on the part of public schooling.
ThePieReborn
01/29/2024
01:00 PM
#26
Can be done well, but I would trust the average parent to have as much capacity for pedagogy as I do, which is to say zilch.
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rexcrk
01/29/2024
01:02 PM
#27
My more conservative-leaning friends seem really into the idea
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Questionmarktarius
01/29/2024
01:02 PM
#28
KajeI posted...
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PeteyParker
01/29/2024
01:03 PM
#29
My wife's cousin's wife is homeschooling their daughter. The girl is going to be 7 and can't read anything. I don't think they actually do any of the work that's supposed to be required. His wife is just lazy and didn't want to have to bring their daughter to school. She has no job and never wanted one, even before they were married or had a kid. They have a second kid now and he will probably also never learn anything. It's a shame there don't seem to be actual standards or people actually keeping track of this stuff.
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Westernwolf4
01/29/2024
01:05 PM
#30
Public school was so good for me and both my kids. In particular, high school sports opened up whole new worlds for my oldest. He is now doing great in college as an athlete and a student-and his public school education was a fantastic start for that.

Butin this day and age, I also dont blame any parent who chooses to home school. Our society doesnt put enough resources into education, and we have a bad faith political party intent on raking in donations and wedge issue voters instead of protecting children from gun violence. My youngest sons school has already had four duck and cover/evacuation drills during the 2023-2024 school year to prepare for a gun at school. That should not be necessary, but the GOP has made it necessary by refusing to let our society do anything about guns. And it is a real consideration for parents when choosing whether to send their kids outside of the home for school.

I thrived in public school. My kids have thrived in public school. But I dont blame parents who make a different choice.
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Sunburst
01/29/2024
01:15 PM
#31
PeteyParker posted...
My wife's cousin's wife is homeschooling their daughter. The girl is going to be 7 and can't read anything. I don't think they actually do any of the work that's supposed to be required. His wife is just lazy and didn't want to have to bring their daughter to school. She has no job and never wanted one, even before they were married or had a kid. They have a second kid now and he will probably also never learn anything. It's a shame there don't seem to be actual standards or people actually keeping track of this stuff.
Most if not all states should require the students take the same standardized tests as other students.
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ZMythos
01/29/2024
02:20 PM
#32
As a teacher: I'm generally fine with the choice to homeschool. But, I've seen some of the materials and they are TERRIBLE and the practice is almost entirely unregulated. Very little is done to actually verify that kids are meeting the same standards as public schools, or even if they're meeting the required hours.

My sister's husband came from a large homeschooled family and as such is also homeschooling her 5 kids. Her oldest is 7. There are definitely some social and academic gaps I've noticed in my interactions with them.

They're also religious fundamentalists and that's definitely stunted their social development.
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ProjectSiolence
01/29/2024
02:25 PM
#33
Only problem I had with homeschool was sleeping with my teacher
Questionmarktarius
01/29/2024
02:28 PM
#34
hold up there, #33.
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Questionmarktarius
01/29/2024
02:32 PM
#36
Asherlee10 posted...
I think education needs to be standardized across the US based on data-driven methods.
Data-driven methods are why the education system is actually "teach to the standardized test", regardless of what the "woke!!" whiners would have you believe.

Kids don't actually learn anything, but are drilled to pop out enough rote fact to fill in the little circles on the scantron form.
BucketCat
01/29/2024
02:36 PM
#37
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emblem-man
01/29/2024
02:36 PM
#38
Questionmarktarius posted...
Data-driven methods are why the education system is actually "teach to the standardized test", regardless of what the "woke!!" whiners would have you believe.

Kids don't actually learn anything, but are drilled to pop out enough rote fact to fill in the little circles on the scantron form.

What actually would be the opposite of teaching to the standardized tests?

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I recall in high school that...the tests generally had information that was good to learn. Like, AP tests and state level tests had information that one would need to learn. Math and science requires a large amount of rote work.

Do people just mean teachers shouldn't spend time teaching on how to test (multiple choice tips, etc.)?
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Questionmarktarius
01/29/2024
02:40 PM
#39
emblem-man posted...
What actually would be the opposite of teaching to the standardized tests?
I dunno, Montessori or something?
As-is, the questions on last year's test set the curriculum for this year, at least until after test day, because it's tied to public funding. Weren't a lot of scantrons the couple years I was in a private school.
Ivany2008
01/29/2024
02:44 PM
#40
If it were up to me, I would say that January/February should be home school/distant learning for everyone who wants it. You still have the option to go to school or a care facility (for kids with both parents working), but in some cases that would be closer than actual schools in rural areas. Some kids have to be driven 100 km to get to school here, and the weather can get pretty brutal with snowstorms.

Plus having that option would allow me to teach my kid(if I had kids) faster than they would be learning in school with certain subjects. And all in all, its a lot less stress in some regards. They would still see their friends but they could go out and enjoy life rather than being stuck in a classroom where the average attention span is maybe 1-2 hours at best.
Mizznox
01/29/2024
02:47 PM
#41
My gf home-schooled her kids for a year, after disruptions/issues from Covid and moving around (her husband was in the Coast Guard) left them behind or not receiving credit in certain areas. Seemed to work out well for them getting caught back up or even exceling past where they needed to be. Of course, once they were settled back in and she went to work full-time, they went back to public school and are still doing well.
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Prototypic
01/29/2024
02:55 PM
#42
I used to be pretty anti-homeschooling, but my position has softened a bit as public schooling has seemingly gotten worse over time. I still think the average parent lacks the resources, skills, committment, etc, to effectively homeschool, but there are also some parents doing a way better job than public schools could, especially depending on the state/district since quality of education can vary pretty heavily based on location.
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MrMojoRising
01/29/2024
02:58 PM
#43
It can be good, but it's a full-time job that lots of parents fuck up, unfortunately.
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McMarbles
01/29/2024
03:02 PM
#44
CervusCanadensi posted...
Good academically

Is it though?

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BakonBitz
01/29/2024
03:22 PM
#45
archizzy posted...
I have known quite a few kids who were homeschooled. In most instances, not every one but most they ended up with a better education but were a little behind in social skills.
I can attest to this, I was homeschooled but a little socially stunted, it taught stuff in advance and I learned stuff like algebra at an earlier grade. Took me a few years while working at jobs to become more social but I'm generally introverted.
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Questionmarktarius
01/29/2024
03:29 PM
#47
Asherlee10 posted...
I'm talking about standardizing what is required to be taught at each level.
Good luck with that.
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Questionmarktarius
01/29/2024
03:30 PM
#49
Asherlee10 posted...
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there's always going to be someone complaining about what is or isn't there.
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