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Police in the Canadian province of Quebec warned citizens against posting surveillance footage of their packages being stolen because it could violate the private life of the alleged thieves.

Montreal West is known for its large porches, but around the holidays, those porches are a big target for thieves or porch pirates, CTV News Montreal videojournalist Olivia OMalley reported on Saturday.

Its something we deal with on a daily basis, said Montreal West councilor responsible for public security Lauren Small-Pennefather.
You have people that are following the vehicles, and when they see a parcel thats dropped off, they then go and take the parcel if nobody comes to the door to retrieve the parcel, Small-Pennefather told CTV.

However, the provinces local police force, the Sret du Qubec (SQ) warned local citizens against sharing footage of alleged porch thieves.

You cannot post the images yourself because you have to remember, in Canada, we have a presumption of innocence and posting that picture could be a violation of private life, SQ communications officer Lt. Benoit Richard warned. If you get some proof that somebody might have stolen something, call the police, give that proof to the police, he said. Well do the investigation, bring that person to justice and file some charges.

People who post security footage of their packages being stolen could face potential defamation charges, according to CTV.

The Sret du Qubec sent Fox News Digital an email which pointed to articles 35 and 36 of the Civil Code of Qubec, which state every person has a right to the respect of his reputation and privacy, and that the privacy of a person may not be invaded without the consent of the person or without the invasion being authorized by law.

They also said individuals who disseminate pictures of a person without consent could face a variety of civil or criminal proceedings depending on the situation.

The comments from the law enforcement officer sparked backlash and disbelief that Canadians could face legal trouble for posting home security footage of their packages being stolen.

Its 2024, so of course the police care more about criminals than victims of crime, Canadian journalist Ezra Levant wrote.

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Becareful Canadians, don't want to infringe on Privacy rights of porch-pirates.
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only in Quebec
As a non-Canadian, thats fucking stupid
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The_Popo posted...
As a non-Canadian, thats fucking stupid


this. screw quebec's ideals. if they want to protect should be giving the victims compensation for stolen goods.
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Since when was there ever an expectation for privacy when not just out in public but on someone elses property?
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less.
...Presumption of innocence? If the video is literally somebody stealing your shit, there is no presumption of innocence.

This is so fucking dumb.
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rodu_jr posted...
only in Quebec
Isn't Quebec mostly run by right-wingers?
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I could understand in a "we're trying to avoid vigilantism" way or whatever.

Not so much here.
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Not surprising considering that in some situations robbers can actually sue homeowners for injuring them, whether by fists or anti-burglar traps.

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Humble_Novice posted...
Isn't Quebec mostly run by right-wingers?
dunno, the province has a party that only exists in Quebec, don't know much about them
>quebec
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Quebec is stupid

As a Canadian I've spent my life learning this lesson repeatedly
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Quebec is quickly becoming my go-to assumption when I click into topics like these. It is usually correct... like guessing some batshit bizarro story in the U.S. took place in Florida.
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In many nations the media can't name suspects or post mug shots.
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StealThisSheen posted...
...Presumption of innocence? If the video is literally somebody stealing your shit, there is no presumption of innocence.

This is so fucking dumb.

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This is the perfect example of the police having no idea what they're talking about
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So in Quebec you can commit crimes and not have your reputation ruined?
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bigtiggie23 posted...
So in Quebec you can commit crimes and not have your reputation ruined?

Not until they can present it as evidence in court, I guess?

The whole thing seems a bit silly.
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Nobody calling out that TC obscured the fact the source is a rag (New York Post) with a url shortener link?
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Lmao I hope nobody pays heed to that

Thieves shouldn't get away with doing whatever they want.
Doe posted...
Nobody calling out that TC obscured the fact the source is a rag (New York Post) with a url shortener link?

Rag or not, it's a literal quote.
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The_Popo posted...
As a non-Canadian, thats fucking stupid

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Given that we're presuming innocence, we can safely presume that no individuals are in the video and there is therefore no violation of privacy.
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Just don't live in Quebec, easy.
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Sounds like a California thing
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DrizztLink posted...
I could understand in a "we're trying to avoid vigilantism" way or whatever.

Not so much here.

I get the argument about deterring vigilantism and not releasing the video to the public because of that. The presumption of innocence argument is fucking stupid. I allege that they stole my package. Here is the video of them stealing my package. Do your jobs.

rodu_jr posted...
dunno, the province has a party that only exists in Quebec, don't know much about them

Bloc Quebecois, which is a fairly significant party in Quebec. They used to be strongly separatist, but that has died down quite a lot.
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Alucard188 posted...
They used to be strongly separatist, but that has died down quite a lot.

Specifically because separating from Canada polls very poorly among millennials and younger and even among older generations last I saw it was only slightly above 50%. Basically it's not a winning issue any more there.
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Doe posted...
Nobody calling out that TC obscured the fact the source is a rag (New York Post) with a url shortener link?

You can google search it easily.

https://abc7.com/porch-pirates-canada-quebec-privacy-laws/14313836/
https://www.outkick.com/canadian-official-video-of-porch-pirate-violates-privacy/
https://petapixel.com/2024/01/11/canadian-police-say-porch-pirates-have-a-right-to-privacy/

And even then, I highlighted exact quotes in the article. It's not like it's an opinion piece of something.

With that said, people did rightfully call out that this is only a thing in Quebec, not Canada as a whole which I'll rightfully take an L on.
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Seems ridiculous.
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
Quebec is quickly becoming my go-to assumption when I click into topics like these. It is usually correct... like guessing some batshit bizarro story in the U.S. took place in Florida.
Quebec is literally our Florida, so you aren't wrong.
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StealThisSheen posted...
...Presumption of innocence? If the video is literally somebody stealing your shit, there is no presumption of innocence.

This is so fucking dumb.

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Absolute bullshit.
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There is no presumption of innocence. It's literally caught on video. Stupid af.
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I will not post the video as that would incriminate me when theyre caught on camera exploding from my decoy pipebomb Amazon deliveries
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Prestoff posted...
Police in the Canadian province of Quebec warned citizens against posting surveillance footage of their packages being stolen because it could violate the private life of the alleged thieves.
Their right to privacy got voided when they violated my right to get my fucking package. Fuck them and fuck whatever official had the nerve to say that.
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Posting a video of someone stealing your shit isnt breaking a presumption of innocence >.>
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Its your video footage, post it wherever you want.
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