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i would never pirate a movie if it had a home media release, is on streaming (whether on a service or rentable on a digital platform), or was playing in theaters near me. this covers like 99.9% of movies i'm interested in seeing so i just don't feel the need to do it.

kind of bizarre the justifications people come up with to steal art. yeah the theater can be expensive but like... you know it only costs $4 or $5 to rent a movie right? you can just wait for that. you don't need to see a movie right away. it's just a movie. not a big deal.

especially bizarre since we just had two enormous strikes that were largely over streaming residuals and a lot of people who pirate fancy themselves as leftists. but it's literally anti-labor to steal from artists. i don't understand.

anyway if a movie is readily accessible you shouldn't steal it. same with shows or music. thanks for reading! voice your opinions below!
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Readily okay with piracy if it's the only means to play or preserve lost content.

Old Nintendo games for example.

If someone wants to pirate Faxanadu on the NES because it's not on NSO, and won't spend $4000 on buying it second hand from a collector, I don't really care.

I usually rent most of my movies I want to watch on Amazon anyway.
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Supporting death threats against animators is also immoral but you had no problem doing that.
Cemith posted...
Readily okay with piracy if it's the only means to play or preserve lost content.

Old Nintendo games for example.

If someone wants to pirate Faxanadu on the NES because it's not on NSO, and won't spend $4000 on buying it second hand from a collector, I don't really care.

I usually rent most of my movies I want to watch on Amazon anyway.

you should use apple tv to rent. same prices but better streaming quality imo

and yeah i don't see the big deal with pirating stuff that is straight up not available but i'm pretty sure 99% of stuff being pirated is accessible.
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Piracy isn't theft, nothing is being stolen".
Zithers posted...
you should use apple tv to rent. same prices but better streaming quality imo

I don't think I'll ever willingly give money to Apple.
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Cemith posted...
Readily okay with piracy if it's the only means to play or preserve lost content.

Old Nintendo games for example.

If someone wants to pirate Faxanadu on the NES because it's not on NSO, and won't spend $4000 on buying it second hand from a collector, I don't really care.

I usually rent most of my movies I want to watch on Amazon anyway.
It's 10.66

https://www.amazon.com/Faxanadu-Nintendo-Entertainment-System/dp/B00081RQ08
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Is sharing streaming passwords piracy? I'm not paying for it and I'm accessing all of this content.
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Trelve posted...
Piracy isn't theft, nothing is being stolen".

got a big brain here

Cemith posted...
I don't think I'll ever willingly give money to Apple.

thats fair i guess although i don't think amazon is much more ethical if thats your reasoning
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MorbidFaithless posted...
Is sharing streaming passwords piracy? I'm not paying for it and I'm accessing all of this content.

... doesn't every streamer let you run multiple devices at the same time and have several accounts for other people? don't think this is a good analogy.
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Zithers posted...
got a big brain here
You're the one who mentioned "stealing art".
Another thread where people rationalize theft.
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Another thread where people rationalize corporate theft
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MyMainAccount posted...
It's 10.66

https://www.amazon.com/Faxanadu-Nintendo-Entertainment-System/dp/B00081RQ08

Neat! I just googled "NES games list" and picked a random example to illustrate my point.

Zithers posted...
thats fair i guess although i don't think amazon is much more ethical if thats your reasoning

I just hate Apple. Period.
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the only piracy im opposed to is small time indie stuff

otherwise i dont give a fuck what u pirate. im busy having actual shit to care about
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Euripides posted...
Another thread where people rationalize theft.

i think people hate artists. possibly because of jealousy. like they maybe subconsciously resent them for not having what they perceive to be a 'real job' and being more creative. plus they got rich anyway so they don't need *their* money since they got it from some other sucker, right?

disturbing. imagine if all the movies and shows and music just vanished. you'd be bored as fuck and maybe learn to be a lil grateful!
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All I can say to media purveyors is just fucking make it easy to pay you and for me to get my content. If I get a better product from piracy easier than you can give it to me what the fuck are you even doing in the business?
In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity.
AldousIsDead posted...
All I can say to media purveyors is just fucking make it easy to pay you and for me to get my content. If I get a better product from piracy easier than you can give it to me what the fuck are you even doing in the business?

how is it hard to pay someone

like what is an example of this
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Euripides posted...
Another thread where people rationalize theft.
you're right, theft is wrong
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-is-about-to-remove-over-1000-discovery-shows-even-if-youve-purchased-them/1100-6519671/
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Zithers posted...
... doesn't every streamer let you run multiple devices at the same time and have several accounts for other people? don't think this is a good analogy.
I looked it up and it's in fact illegal but no one seems to care lol.
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FL81 posted...
you're right, theft is wrong
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-is-about-to-remove-over-1000-discovery-shows-even-if-youve-purchased-them/1100-6519671/

Nice strawman
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Euripides posted...
Nice strawman

Nice strawman

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NeonTentacles posted...
Nice strawman
Nice strawman
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FL81 posted...
Nice strawman

Nice strawman
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Jim Sterling told me its morally okay to pirate Nintendo games and they had some convincing arguments.
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If your only justification for piracy is you don't want to pay for anything, then I don't support it.
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I'll give an example from music. A band that I like put out an album a couple of years ago that had no way to purchase the music, only stream it, and then only through YouTube Music and Apple. Eventually they put out a way to buy it from Amazon Music (which is ass to buy from) but by that time I had already moved on, despite it being on my short list for best albums of the year.
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Given that it can be used for good or bad, I'd say it's a neutral act. It's definitely not inherently immoral, because it's the only way to access some lost media.
Zithers posted...
how is it hard to pay someone

like what is an example of this

I want to buy digital copies of Velcra - Between Force and Fate and Velcra - Consequences of Disobedience

Please show me where I can do this
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MorbidFaithless posted...
I looked it up and it's in fact illegal but no one seems to care lol.

hulu lets two devices stream at the same time and allows six profiles to be made
netflix lets two as well and up to four depending on the plan
max's standard plan is 3 at a time
etc

doesn't seem like theft. and when you're streaming those movies it builds up residuals for the artists. if you're ripping a movie then no one is getting paid and you're saving money. so i feel like that is theft.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Velcra - Between Force and Fate

https://www.discogs.com/master/296516-Velcra-Between-Force-And-Fate
https://www.discogs.com/release/384695-Velcra-Consequences-Of-Disobedience

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Zithers posted...
https://www.discogs.com/master/296516-Velcra-Between-Force-And-Fate
https://www.discogs.com/release/384695-Velcra-Consequences-Of-Disobedience

?

I checked this myself because I was curious, these are physical vinyl not digitally released.
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My biggest case for acceptable piracy is games that are impossible to actually play legit because they were never released in your country. A ton of obscure older games never made it out of Japan, so if youre emulating it with a fan made translation patch i think thats perfectly fine.

Same goes for stuff like anime to me. If i cannot legitimately purchase or find it on any streaming service, then ill find my own way to watch it.

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It definitely depends. There are NES and Saturn games (among others) that sell for hundreds of dollars for just the cartridge/disc and are otherwise not available to buy anywhere. There are games that were only released digitally for now defunct platforms that are not available to buy at all.
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If the only method available to obtain something is through the second hand market, fuck it, not going to feed collectors and scalpers greed addictions

Otherwise I find currently (tho certainly doesn't seem it will be this way much longer) that piracy is more inconvenient than 'legitimate' methods so there isn't a major benefit to it ATM beyond out of print media
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its funny cuz every legitimate professional artist i know pirates like GBs worth of shit
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Cemith posted...
I checked this myself because I was curious, these are physical vinyl not digitally released.

https://www.amazon.com/Consequences-Disobedience-Velcra/dp/B00013K9MU/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1705171003&refinements=p_32%3AVelcra&s=music&sr=1-1

is this a cd instead of vinyl

reading the reviews and this music sounds like it must be positively awful
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Zithers posted...
https://www.amazon.com/Consequences-Disobedience-Velcra/dp/B00013K9MU/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1705171003&refinements=p_32%3AVelcra&s=music&sr=1-1

is this a cd instead of vinyl

reading the reviews and this music sounds like it must be positively awful

Should be right up your alley then
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Zithers posted...
https://www.amazon.com/Consequences-Disobedience-Velcra/dp/B00013K9MU/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1705171003&refinements=p_32%3AVelcra&s=music&sr=1-1

is this a cd instead of vinyl

reading the reviews and this music sounds like it must be positively awful
the 4.2/5 star rating is positively awful?
Hee Ho
Werid Al said it best. Paraphrasing.

"I have mixed feelings. On one hand I know that Piracy is having an effect on my music sales. On the other hand I can download music for free!"
"I will either find a way, or make one."
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
If the only method available to obtain something is through the second hand market, fuck it, not going to feed collectors and scalpers greed addictions

Otherwise I find currently (tho certainly doesn't seem it will be this way much longer) that piracy is more inconvenient than 'legitimate' methods so there isn't a major benefit to it ATM beyond out of print media

yeah i don't take issue with pirating things that are not accessible. i didn't make this topic thinking it would turn into people trying to bring up the most obscure thing they can to 'gotcha' me. but the vast majority of pirating is shit that is beyond easy to get ahold of.

also i'm on a private tracker for movies and only use it for old stuff that is just straight up not on (reasonably priced) disc or streaming. which is honestly not much. the internet makes it very easy to see what you want. so yeah there is more or less zero reason to pirate movies if you are a normie who watches normie movies.
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Tbh I'd rather support artists with merch sales since they tend to get a higher percentage of the money than with music sales
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Zithers posted...
https://www.discogs.com/master/296516-Velcra-Between-Force-And-Fate
https://www.discogs.com/release/384695-Velcra-Consequences-Of-Disobedience

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Which one of those links goes to the digital copy?
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