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Mew
03/26/2024
04:09 AM
#101
KaZooo posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBqH4uJS0PU

Whole album sounds good.

I wasn't following the survival show, so I'm pretty blind to knowing whether or not the members' own talent shines or they just fit into a good production.

Also not sure where they fit in HYBE's current portfolio, other than being a way to fill out schedules between other comebacks and finding a way to use these available tracks before anyone else bought them out or something.
I'm liking Magnetic and Midnight Fiction

Illit is lit
https://iili.io/J2AP3an.gif
KaZooo
03/27/2024
12:48 AM
#102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpG4AotIuEc

A lot of candles on that cake.....

jk
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KaZooo
03/27/2024
10:05 PM
#103
Brave Entertainment really sticks to their sound. It's not bad, but I feel like I already heard it.
Visually a bit of a disaster tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkBEM8Q3qMQ
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KaZooo
03/29/2024
01:20 AM
#104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mv12QgO6-o

seems like it work off parts off...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdycvSqMhPI
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KaZooo
03/30/2024
01:46 PM
#105
Xg comeback in late May yet :/
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KaZooo
04/01/2024
12:11 AM
#106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wA_b6YHjqQ

A combobulation of Blackpink songs. Pre-chorus sort of runs like "Love to Hate Me"

I much prefer "Like That", and I think it would've been a fresher look as a lead single for the group with a more western (Charlie Puth) inspiration, but it was a known leftover of his so I guess YG wasn't sure how this would be received and "Sheesh" was a way to explore much people would still buy into the past BP sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO--M-DaMP0
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KaZooo
04/01/2024
08:55 PM
#107
high hopes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vhw8dlVzE
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KaZooo
04/03/2024
12:53 AM
#108
oof
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KaZooo
04/03/2024
09:51 PM
#109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKVYm8mIUdo

Song itself is solid imo

Video is a little jumbled. Like it's not awful, but there were missed opportunities imo to flow better against the track, and I think that can make or break the effectiveness of appeal. The stage view of the choreography is better than the M/V and the close up cinematic performance sets.

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KaZooo
04/04/2024
11:52 PM
#110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TgOZTsJ9ro
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KaZooo
04/06/2024
04:24 PM
#111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqU4oTDy3XE

What they tried to do with her sound, great. Between navigating the verses and how they're structured, meh.
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KainWind
04/06/2024
07:56 PM
#112
Yuqi sang that on their tour last year, was wondering when it was coming.
Momentai
KaZooo
04/07/2024
09:35 PM
#113
Didn't realize Itzy gave this a shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xItHFWKuzE

Albeit possibly pre-recorded (it's kinda rare for Momo to use that voice), I think the members in Twice's cover meshed better. Jihyo was fire there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLrBCb3JxE8
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KaZooo
04/09/2024
12:50 AM
#114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C6f7r_Hqfs
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KaZooo
04/10/2024
12:51 AM
#115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIUuB1RbgJE
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KaZooo
04/11/2024
01:01 AM
#116
There are probably limitations with their current vocals, but it seems they're making the most of it. In some radio sessions it seems a few members come short of projection or at least adjusting between the levels they'd apply for recording vs. live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qqly8QOvU
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KaZooo
04/12/2024
12:57 AM
#117
These type of collaborations never really take off for me. I guess it's a generational thing, because the only benchmark off the top of my head when it comes to crossing over with video games is Hikaru Utada/KH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyvj3jSNV4
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KaZooo
04/13/2024
03:52 AM
#118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7y9_n-6QU

I don't think there was any doubt for them to have to erase as far as coming with actual vocals. Would be nice if more newer groups step up to it.
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KaZooo
04/14/2024
04:19 AM
#119
womp womp womp
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KaZooo
04/15/2024
01:18 AM
#120
Was watching a few clips of that Lesserafim performance at Coachella.

Some of it was a shouty performance, I guess necessary with the crowd and live instrumentals. That noticeably helped hide some of the holes of the usual members.

Some solid and some meh performances. Factoring getting gassed with choreography in later tracks and usual instability, I don't think it's something to get too critical over. They just can't be compared to the BP performances, which I think says more about how good BP (and maybe can throw in Aespa) performances are, more than how not-as-good Lesserafim performances are.
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paerarru
04/15/2024
03:27 PM
#121
KaZooo posted...
Didn't realize Itzy gave this a shot

Albeit possibly pre-recorded (it's kinda rare for Momo to use that voice), I think the members in Twice's cover meshed better. Jihyo was fire there

smh that's Lee Hyori's voice man, which fits her song perfectly. Or else the backtrack is hella strong. Twice did look better (my subjective opinion), and they did dance better, a significantly less subjective assessment, but then that's in no small part because Itzy was actually singing, I think pretty live at that, rather impressively. Not taking from Twice, I already loved this perf, but you made me appreciate Itzy's rendition better.
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KaZooo
04/15/2024
03:39 PM
#122
paerarru posted...
smh that's Lee Hyori's voice man, which fits her song perfectly. Or else the backtrack is hella strong. Twice did look better (my subjective opinion), and they did dance better, a significantly less subjective assessment, but then that's in no small part because Itzy was actually singing, I think pretty live at that, rather impressively. Not taking from Twice, I already loved this perf, but you made me appreciate Itzy's rendition better.
Aww I'm tripping.

I thought Twice put Jihyo and Nayeon in there as their best bet to handle the vocals.
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paerarru
04/16/2024
06:26 PM
#123
KaZooo posted...
Aww I'm tripping.

I thought Twice put Jihyo and Nayeon in there as their best bet to handle the vocals.

lol, yeah those are prop mics. I'm sure Jihyo and Nayeon would do well if they tried, Momo though... that's just not gonna be her. The song has a lot of reverb/layered vocals also, might be why Twice sounded fuller.

A bit old but did you all hear Hyein had an injury while practicing or something, hope she gets well soon, doesn't affect their schedule too much.
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KaZooo
04/16/2024
07:44 PM
#124
paerarru posted...
A bit old but did you all hear Hyein had an injury while practicing or something, hope she gets well soon, doesn't affect their schedule too much.
Dang, that's one of the prime comebacks I was looking forward to.

Aespa Winter also with the collapsed lung. Yikes.
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KainWind
04/16/2024
08:12 PM
#125
And ICHILLIN's Chowon got knocked out by a foul ball!
Momentai
paerarru
04/17/2024
02:18 PM
#126
KaZooo posted...
Dang, that's one of the prime comebacks I was looking forward to.

Aespa Winter also with the collapsed lung. Yikes.

Oh yeah that's right.

KainWind posted...
And ICHILLIN's Chowon got knocked out by a foul ball!

Okay what the heck...
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KaZooo
04/17/2024
09:23 PM
#127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBXTKTeaJcA

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Shugo702
04/18/2024
04:48 PM
#128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey53EQhkLY8&ab_channel=SMTOWN

Love it, just missing Seunghan who would've ate this up. Very f(x)/Shinee.

The Lesserafim discourse is funny. I could never get into them properly because their studio vocals were very vacant and here we are with their "surprising" live vocals, or lack thereof.

https://x.com/ritasmon/status/1780922237689659692
This made me laugh. I don't understand how HYBE has no vocal trainers and/or straight up do not prioritize vocals whatsoever.
KaZooo
04/18/2024
07:47 PM
#129
Shugo702 posted...


Love it, just missing Seunghan who would've ate this up. Very f(x)/Shinee.

Yeah, I've been liking the direction SM has taken with RIIZE, going back to music that....makes more sense that's not to say that NCT hasn't had some nice tracks over time.

Shugo702 posted...
The Lesserafim discourse is funny. I could never get into them properly because their studio vocals were very vacant and here we are with their "surprising" live vocals, or lack thereof.

https://x.com/ritasmon/status/1780922237689659692
This made me laugh. I don't understand how HYBE has no vocal trainers and/or straight up do not prioritize vocals whatsoever.

The Lesserafim situation was sort of an elephant in the room, at the very least expecting Chaewon and Yunjin would be having to lead on vocal exhibitions. Somewhat leave some hope out that the others could develop. Booking them for Coachella this year was big gamble that blew this up into something else, but the director behind all this already made a mistake not watching out for how far off the mark they still were. I mean "Easy", is a pretty soft tone track. I would've expected the entire group to be able to hold their own in just the encores. Chaewon was a bit of a surprise because she also seems to have to support her voice differently now. She was sounding good on the "Unforgiven" encores, among her other solo live exhibitions.

Illit, sorry to add to piling on them, panned out to be as hollow as speculated to be. Pretty much bodies thrown into otherwise-ready tracks that could carry them. I wasn't following the reality show, and I've heard some speculation on how that went, but for sure the debut sat weird for me. Kinda messed to perhaps roast those members but HYBE will need to take notice that a good share of the public ain't having that.

Sounds like Boynextdoor holds their own, as well as New Jeans. Not sure who else is under HYBE's labels. Not sure if fromis_9 is actually still continuing.

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KaZooo
04/20/2024
01:50 AM
#130
oof
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Shugo702
04/20/2024
01:57 AM
#131
KaZooo posted...
Illit, sorry to add to piling on them, panned out to be as hollow as speculated to be. Pretty much bodies thrown into otherwise-ready tracks that could carry them. I wasn't following the reality show, and I've heard some speculation on how that went, but for sure the debut sat weird for me. Kinda messed to perhaps roast those members but HYBE will need to take notice that a good share of the public ain't having that.
I didn't watch the show either, but they are intriguing. Yunah really doesn't fit the concept but she is really talented. Iroha is a standout as well.

Sounds like Boynextdoor holds their own, as well as New Jeans. Not sure who else is under HYBE's labels. Not sure if fromis_9 is actually still continuing.

fromis_9 (like SVT, GFRIEND and NU'EST) don't count since they didn't train there, their companies were just absorbed into HYBE, lol. Other groups include ENHYPEN and TXT who vocally have nothing to write home about. Even BTS is nothing special, Jungkook is just ok. BOYNEXTDOOR is under a subsidiary that is managed by ZICO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NLjc1Qa19Y&ab_channel=ALLSTANKPOPENTERTAINMENT
He ate them up... lmao
KaZooo
04/20/2024
04:04 PM
#132
Shugo702 posted...


He ate them up... lmao

Straight up performed it lol not just sing/cover it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzkJoSio3-E

Wonder how much the disciplines with Loona stuck with them. Synchronization is still crazy.
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KaZooo
04/21/2024
08:24 PM
#133
Supposedly they improved, some say it was more backtrack, some cite instances where noted wear evidently cut short suggesting it was legit.

Either way, the "Easy" encores were a bit of a head scratcher.

https://youtu.be/ywGIGYTRrUE?si=oRCYVVCxRJqryXzF
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Shugo702
04/22/2024
02:45 AM
#134
Cherry Bullet disbanded =/

A shame, their company (FNC) has a pretty bad rep with handling their artists. Liked Haeyoon since PD48.

Kind of ironic since Kokoro ended up (barely) debuting in ME:I (winner of Produce101 JP) a few months ago. Their first single has already sold over 250k or so in Japan meanwhile Cherry Bullet's total album sales probably barely exceed 100k in South Korea. X_x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iex6oIsO2c&ab_channel=M2

Still bitter Rino didn't make it, but Ran is a star.
KaZooo
04/22/2024
09:28 PM
#135
Shugo702 posted...
Cherry Bullet disbanded =/

A shame, their company (FNC) has a pretty bad rep with handling their artists. Liked Haeyoon since PD48.

She was so instantly likeable for anyone new (put me in that category) when she came with highnote early in "Q&A". From that point on, that/she was the only reason I'd keep checking their next singles.

But yeah, I noticed things were getting a little silent with them.
I'm also wondering what happened to Weki Meki.

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paerarru
04/24/2024
12:55 AM
#136
Shugo702 posted...
Kind of ironic since Kokoro (former member of Cherry Bullet that "left" the group with 2 other members with no explanation) ended up (barely) debuting in ME:I (winner of Produce101 JP) a few months ago. Their first single has already sold over 250k or so in Japan meanwhile Cherry Bullet's total album sales probably barely exceed 100k in South Korea. X_x
Still bitter Rino didn't make it, but Ran is a star.

Again they're so K coded. Again I really enjoy Ebihara's vocals though. But remember when you couldn't really compare Korea numbers with Japan numbers? It's funny how the industry still works though, an idol leaves Japan and goes to Korea so that they can then go back to Japan. I guess Kokoro did that in her own way... Stan Miu.

Min Heejin freaked out, HYBE didn't take it lightly. I just hope whatever happens it doesn't hurt NJ. I don't even know what article to post, it's a huge, huge mess.
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KaZooo
04/24/2024
12:55 AM
#137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqJIBItJeyg

While none of the songs standalone necessarily blow my mind, I thought the overall album was pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8ECgGWuoew

I think this Japanese release was pretty decent, but I'm never sure what to think of this group's concept as a whole.
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KaZooo
04/24/2024
12:57 AM
#138
paerarru posted...
Min Heejin freaked out, HYBE didn't take it lightly. I just hope whatever happens it doesn't hurt NJ. I don't even know what article to post, it's a huge, huge mess.

One thing that crossed my mind about NJ before was just how long that high would last. I mean the last 1.5 years was just crazy.

But I didn't expect it to potentially fall apart due to something like this.
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YamaChan
04/24/2024
02:54 PM
#139
My misery is real
"Key which hides the powers of darkness... Show your true power before me. Under the contract, Sakura commands you. Release!!" - Sakura Kinomoto
paerarru
04/24/2024
11:01 PM
#140
YamaChan posted...
My misery is real

Yeah, it's lose-lose for us. Kpop executives once again find a way to screw up a good thing.
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KaZooo
04/24/2024
11:48 PM
#141
It's kinda crazy that Hybe has 3 situations (granted this one is far more serious than the other two) kicking in at almost the same time.

But yeah, it's looking like a lose-lose. There's two wrong sides and it might be inevitable that NJ needs to split from MHJ for better or worse.

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YamaChan
04/25/2024
05:01 AM
#142
I've been a K-Pop fan for 12 years. That press conference MHJ just concluded is the wildest experience I've ever had. K-Pop will NEVER be the same after what just happened today. I'm still in shock and processing it all
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KaZooo
04/25/2024
09:31 AM
#143
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613#google_vignette

I'll try to get around digesting this thing maybe later today
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paerarru
04/25/2024
04:11 PM
#144
Wild is the right word. Then again a part of me is so jaded I'm just sickened by the whole circus. Specially when I think of the girls, man. Boys, too, like nothing is sacred anymore. I'd be right there with my popcorn enjoying the dumpster fire if it wasn't for them. They don't deserve this. Idols don't deserve this, we don't deserve this, Kpop doesn't deserve this. Yeah. I'm sorry I can't, done for now, maybe later.
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KaZooo
04/26/2024
07:11 PM
#145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft70sAYrFyY

Maybe the most upfront thing about this, is they didn't want to include chorography in the MV, and it might be a vocal-only track, which tends to happen for most artists after a few singles under their belt.

I think they had the option to make the instrumental heavier (especially the pre-chorus) but opted to concentrate on the showcase of the vocal pitch and ad-libs through the writing.
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KaZooo
04/26/2024
08:33 PM
#146
but oof this is pretty tight. Both Jackson and BIBI have been staying at it with their solo careers. Fitting for them to be on the same track. Also the video was executed really well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8BTgbbDYxY
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PumpkinCoach
04/26/2024
10:34 PM
#147
https://youtu.be/4gIIInvqTlc?feature=shared

song of the year
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KaZooo
04/28/2024
03:37 AM
#148
https://youtu.be/_f6HNWzmHIY?si=nG1MwYICrHUWuXCv
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KaZooo
04/29/2024
03:17 AM
#149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt3qwKB4N5Y
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KaZooo
04/29/2024
11:25 PM
#150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07EzMbVH3QE

Kinda beating a dead horse when I dwell into how lukewarm I am about what this group puts out for the most part. I guess it'll always escape me as to how so many people get sold on them. A case of no they're not bad at all (I like the talent they've assembled), but I don't get where chart-topping and masses of views/streams come about from those singles.
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