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VideoboysaysCube
11/07/2023
05:03 PM
#1
it's considered empowering and a form of self-expression, but if a guy renders a fictional character in similar attire, they're criticized for sexualizing and objectifying women?
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Lairen
11/07/2023
05:04 PM
#2
Why is WAP considered ok at all?
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Freddie_Mercury
11/07/2023
05:05 PM
#3
VideoboysaysCube posted...
self-expression
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Murphiroth
11/07/2023
05:05 PM
#4
This question was asked in good faith for sure.
PMarth2002
11/07/2023
05:06 PM
#5
Because the man portraying the woman in provacative clothing is probably doing it to objectify/sexualize her.

Also, a lot of people don't consider women dressing provacatively empowering, they think it makes her a slut.
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royic
11/07/2023
05:06 PM
#6
If the intent is for a woman to wear what she wants while disregarding what society wants her to wear, it's empowering. If the intent is for you to draw something to jack off to it's really not.
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Gremlynn
11/07/2023
05:08 PM
#7
Something tells me the motivation behind any person dressing a person of their desired sex (fictional or otherwise) in provocative attire is not the same motivation behind anybody dressing themselves in a similar fashion.

Usually at least. There's always outliers.
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darkbuster
11/07/2023
05:14 PM
#9
Because one is a man expressing his ideals of the female body, while the other is a woman's expression. Truth is that it almost completely comes down to WHO's doing it. For example: Bayonetta was a lot more controversial, before it was revealed she was designed by a woman; she was a much more contentious character when it was thought a man made her.
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MatzoTov
11/07/2023
05:15 PM
#10
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brestugo
11/07/2023
05:16 PM
#11
Murphiroth posted...
This question was asked in good faith for sure.

"Provocatively" tips his hand.
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ai123
11/07/2023
05:17 PM
#12
Because it's the choice that is empowering. Not the clothes themselves.
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VideoboysaysCube
11/07/2023
05:21 PM
#13
brestugo posted...
"Provocatively" tips his hand.

Funnily enough, I knew this question would upset some people, but honestly didn't know why. For instance, I didn't know "provocatively" carried this negative connotation. I guess it's a lesson in the nuance of language. Word choice really does matter.
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Torgo
11/07/2023
05:21 PM
#14
VideoboysaysCube posted...
it's considered empowering and a form of self-expression, but if a guy renders a fictional character in similar attire, they're criticized for sexualizing and objectifying women?

Because of the vast globalist conspiracy to emasculate western men to make it easier to force us to live in pods and eat bugs.
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trivialbeing
11/07/2023
05:22 PM
#15
darkbuster posted...
Because one is a man expressing his ideals of the female body
why is this wrong?
Murphiroth
11/07/2023
05:23 PM
#16
VideoboysaysCube posted...
Funnily enough, I knew this question would upset some people, but honestly didn't know why. For instance, I didn't know "provocatively" carried this negative connotation. I guess it's a lesson in the nuance of language. Word choice really does matter.

Do you really not understand the difference between a woman choosing to dress a certain way because it's her choice and some horny dude drawing/rendering/portraying a woman he wants to jerk off to? Really? Really really?
Torgo
11/07/2023
05:23 PM
#17
trivialbeing posted...
why is this wrong?

Who says it's wrong?

Provide an example, please.
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Trumble
11/07/2023
05:23 PM
#18
Because you touch yourself at night.
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Flauros
11/07/2023
05:23 PM
#19
People that get upset over fictional characters are unhinged
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trivialbeing
11/07/2023
05:24 PM
#20
Torgo posted...
Who says it's wrong?

Provide an example, please.
maybe the better word is controversial

A_Good_Boy
11/07/2023
05:25 PM
#21
Why is it OK for a woman to take off her own clothes but when I try to take off her clothes I get slapped and thrown in jail and can't go to Cracker Barrel anymore?
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ai123
11/07/2023
05:25 PM
#22
trivialbeing posted...
why is this wrong?
I dunno, but whenever a woman says they prefer a man to be over 6 ft tall, there is an uproar and they get labelled as a shallow bitch who no one would want anyway.
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Torgo
11/07/2023
05:26 PM
#23
trivialbeing posted...
maybe the better word is controversial

Who says that? Religious groups? A blue haired teenager on Tik Tok?

They have a right to have those opinions and criticize stuff they don't like, right?
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DrizztLink
11/07/2023
05:28 PM
#24
why do we treat actual women different than the fictional stroke totem some dude invented

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Were_Wyrm
11/07/2023
05:28 PM
#25
Because the character couldn't consent to what the artist drew or something.
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trivialbeing
11/07/2023
05:34 PM
#26
Torgo posted...
Who says that? Religious groups? A blue haired teenager on Tik Tok?

They have a right to have those opinions and criticize stuff they don't like, right?
they're literally the reason why Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 isn't available here
Sandalorn
11/07/2023
05:38 PM
#27
If you have to ask, you'll never understand.
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Lokison
11/07/2023
05:39 PM
#28
It's been said plenty here, buts the intent behind it.

Bayonetta vs Quiet (MGSV) is a great example.

Bayonetta literally removes her clothing as she attacks- but was a design choice that makes some sense and makes for some badass visuals just as much as sexy ones.

Quiet is just eye candy with a shoehorned explanation of "she breathes through her skin" even though there were hundreds of different clothing options to choose from that would allow the skin breathing thing to be true.

99% of the time a dude is drawing that shit, it's literally porn. When a woman dresses that way, she's choosing to ignore what others think- which is usually "put some clothes on" or "shit, I gotta get home a draw that shit to beat it to later".
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Torgo
11/07/2023
05:40 PM
#29
trivialbeing posted...
they're literally the reason why Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 isn't available here

Religious groups caused that to happen?

Or was it that teenage boys of the 2010s and 2020s can get better soft-core titillation on their phones without paying retail price for a fan service volleyball game?
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PBusted
11/07/2023
06:02 PM
#30
VideoboysaysCube posted...
Funnily enough, I knew this question would upset some people, but honestly didn't know why. For instance, I didn't know "provocatively" carried this negative connotation. I guess it's a lesson in the nuance of language. Word choice really does matter.

Why are you even asking this question? The statement itself seems to be the most self-explanatory thing possible. Same reason why men working out showing off their bodies are praised as inspiring and powerful, while the illustrations on romance novels by female writers are called thirst traps. Or how regular, slightly feminine main protagonists like a lot of anime and JRPG characters don't have anyone batting an eye (besides their haters I guess) while they'd be called pretty boys in a female oriented work with a female cast.
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