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I dunno how to feel about this.
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If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industries
Says right there it's been done with permission from the family, there's not much to complain about.
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seems kinda meta
Don't you agree, Zach?
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TetsuoS2 posted...
Says right there it's been done with permission from the family, there's not much to complain about.

This as long as consent is given and I think even a payout to the family for what the voice actor would have been paid would also be good compensation.
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They should have just replaced the voice from that point on,this AI bs needs to stop

TetsuoS2 posted...
Says right there it's been done with permission from the family, there's not much to complain about.
What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money
boxoto posted...
seems kinda meta

Lol this.
Fitting for a cyberpunk dystopian genre
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majin_nemesis posted...
They should have just replaced the voice from that point on,this AI bs needs to stop

What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money

well yeah, that's a thing, but I'm not gonna assume anything about someone else's family that I don't even know of.
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Rika_Furude posted...
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industries
Itll be a thing, but not until the last possible moment.
majin_nemesis posted...
What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money
He died. Seances are not legally binding either.
If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter.
Seances are not legally binding either.

i mean if you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's them it should be fine
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majin_nemesis posted...
What about permission from the actual person?
he's dead

i don't think he minds
majin_nemesis posted...
They should have just replaced the voice from that point on,this AI bs needs to stop

What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money

You act as if VA are paid millions. The dude is dead and they may need the extra money to survive. You don't know their situation.
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Ricemills posted...
Lol this.
Fitting for a cyberpunk dystopian genre

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Actors are really going to have to start writing into their wills don't use me for fucking ai aren't they
There's actually some nuance to this incident, apparently:

From what I understand, the company hired a VA replacement for the deceased VA to finish lines and then, with the deceased VA's family's permission, used AI to artificially make the voice sound closer to the original VA.

I'm the first to criticize AI, and this story sounded awful when I heard it, but it's not quite as bad as it sounds.
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Do people freaked out because it's an AI? I have the feeling if it was a digitally altered voice to sounds like the deceased, it wouldn't gain controversy.

Like the Disney CGI background people, people labelling it as an AI and ut gathered attention.
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Kaiganeer posted...
he's dead

i don't think he minds
And you know that how?

majin_nemesis posted...
What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money
Well, he's dead, so I don't think he cares that much. And if we could ask him, I'm sure he'd be happy that his family could get some money to support themselves after his passing.
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Ricemills posted...
Do people freaked out because it's an AI? I have the feeling if it was a digitally altered voice to sounds like the deceased, it wouldn't gain controversy.

Like the Disney CGI background people, people labelling it as an AI and ut gathered attention.
It would, it's disrespectful stop making dead people work for you
gmanthebest posted...
Well, he's dead, so I don't think he cares that much. And if we could ask him, I'm sure he'd be happy that his family could get some money to support themselves after his passing.
What if he doesn't like the company or the game? They are making still work for them beyond the grave

Axiom posted...

Actors are really going to have to start writing into their wills don't use me for fucking ai aren't they?
Yes or companies will keep making them work for them
nothing more cyberpunk than that?
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Rika_Furude posted...
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industries
are you losing work because an ai replaced you
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majin_nemesis posted...
It would, it's disrespectful stop making dead people work for you

Didn't stop people from using dead people on their games. e/g : Onimusha 2.
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potdnewb posted...
are you losing work because an ai replaced you
no
Ricemills posted...
Didn't stop people from using dead people on their games. e/g : Onimusha 2.
So just because those asses did it, it means that everyone else can do it too?
majin_nemesis posted...
So just because those asses did it, it means that everyone else can do it too?

Yeah, sure.
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Ricemills posted...
Yeah, sure.
Nobody minds except you.
Tons of people do
Take the flash movie it severly criticized for using dead actors in the movie

People have criticized marvel for stan lee cameos after the man died,i don't get this stupid fetish with using dead actors in movies in games,let people rest in piece already
majin_nemesis posted...
What if he doesn't like the company or the game? They are making still work for them beyond the grave
He'd probably be happy knowing that his family can still make some money even if he's not alive.
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majin_nemesis posted...
Tons of people do
Take the flash movie it severly criticized for using dead actors in the movie

And where is this "tons of people"? Are they with us right now?
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majin_nemesis posted...
People have criticized marvel for stan lee cameos after the man died

Marvel aint stopping the cash flow from some criticism
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Nukazie posted...
Marvel aint stopping the cash flow from some criticism
didn't know that stan lee cameos was what was making marvel movies sucessful
Rika_Furude posted...
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industries
nah , just like uber.. adapt or get left behind.. sorry, if the taxi drivers had to figure this shit out, now its the artist turn.
sucks when your work gets stolen and no one gives a shite because "Taxi Drivers suck Hurr Durr." Well artists suck.. hurr durr.
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ZaruenKosai posted...
nah , just like uber.. adapt or get left behind.. sorry, if the taxi drivers had to figure this shit out, now its the artist turn.
sucks when your work gets stolen and no one gives a shite because "Taxi Drivers suck Hurr Durr." Well artists suck.. hurr durr.
the issue is that jobs arent getting replaced at a 1:1 ratio. thats why UBI or banning AI is required. doing nothing will lead to riots and collapse of society
It was done with permission from the family.

I don't have a problem with this.
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majin_nemesis posted...
And you know that how?

Because hes dead. The electrical activity in his brain that made up his consciousness dissipated, thus meaning he doesnt exist anymore.

I agree with you about AI, though.
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ZaruenKosai posted...
nah , just like uber.. adapt or get left behind.. sorry, if the taxi drivers had to figure this shit out, now its the artist turn.
sucks when your work gets stolen and no one gives a shite because "Taxi Drivers suck Hurr Durr." Well artists suck.. hurr durr.
yeah screw people having jobs,when all these people defending A.I are starving in a curb somewhere with A.I doing their jobs they will get it

Dark_Arbron posted... Because hes dead. The electrical activity in his brain that made up his consciousness dissipated, thus meaning he doesnt exist anymore.

I agree with you about AI, though.
and he still had wishes and still had a will, him existing or not doesn't mean he would be happy with it
also just because his flesh his dead you can't prove he doesn't exist, we can't yet see all forms of existence and there's also the fact that energy can't be destroyed,it had to go somewhere
majin_nemesis posted...
yeah screw people having jobs,when all these people defending A.I are starving in a curb somewhere with A.I doing their jobs they will get it

and he still had wishes and still had a will, him existing or not doesn't mean he would be happy with it
also just because his flesh his dead you can't prove he doesn't exist, we can't yet see all forms of existence and there's also the fact that energy can't be destroyed,it had to go somewhere

Entropy?
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majin_nemesis posted...
What about permission from the actual person? The family might be just taking advantage to get more money

Should they stop publishing books once the author is dead and the copyright passes to the family?

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Rika_Furude posted...
If they arent going to implement a UBI, they need to ban AI from creative industries and probably most industries
That seems like a net lose to humanity more then anything.

Seriously, what would society gain from this exactly?
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ai123 posted...
Should they stop publishing books once the author is dead and the copyright passes to the family?
that's not the same thing,that still their books,the author isn't appearing in someone else fictional work without his permission,fictional work that is being done for money, it's dead people being taken advantage off and it's weird like these types of things are getting more common,like those concerts where they use holograms of dead singers,it's all becoming very disrespectful and death cult like

Prismsblade posted... That seems like a net lose to humanity more then anything.

Seriously, what would society gain from this exactly?
more jobs and more real things made by real humans

what does society earn by having A.Is take your job while you get nothing? A.I doesn't have much advantage to society

Prismsblade posted...
That seems like a net lose to humanity more then anything.

Seriously, what would society gain from this exactly?
yes, banning AI would be a net loss. Hence the ideal solution is implement UBI.
What you gain from doing nothing is riots and societal collapse
"They have permission from his/her family" is gonna be something we hear about for quite a while now.

Before we know it we'll be seeing season 50 of The Simpsons with AI recreations of dead people and the concept of a new voice actor getting million dollar contract will be impossible.

But it'll be okay because they have permission from the family.
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majin_nemesis posted...
that's not the same thing,that still their books,the author isn't appearing in someone else fictional work without his permission,fictional work that is being done for money, it's dead people being taken advantage off and it's weird like these types of things are getting more common,like those concerts where they use holograms of dead singers,it's all becoming very disrespectful and death cult like
Your complaint was that the family may be profiting by giving permission, which is absolutely the same thing.

Should the family of a dead author no longer have the right to give permission for a film adaptation? Or for their characters to be used in another person's writing (as has happened with Ian Fleming and Agatha Christie)?

The voice over artist is giving a performance. When they die, the options are to scrap the character altogether, remove his work and re-cast, have someone else do an impersonation, or have AI do an impersonation. Why is using AI (with permission) the 'disrespectful' option?

When actors died mid-film in pre-AI days, they used stand-ins and editing to cover for it. Was that wrong?

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Punished_Blinx posted...
the concept of a new voice actor getting million dollar contract will be impossible.

Voice actors rarely get paid anywhere near that much anyway. They need to unionise.
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majin_nemesis posted...
And you know that how?
because he's dead, he no longer exists and is unable to have an opinion on the matter
Legit told everyone I knew there was no way that was a human voice and they told me he was just replaced. Have no idea how people can be so bad at spotting it.
majin_nemesis posted...
more jobs and more real things made by real humans

what does society earn by having A.Is take your job while you get nothing? A.I doesn't have much advantage to society
We're at near record unemployment now so what are you talking about?

Humanity has never in the slightest had difficulty creating new jobs for themselves regardless of our technological advancements the past 2 century's.

AI will not charge that and idk why people are so quick to believe otherwise because some moron on TV said so.
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Prismsblade posted...
AI will not charge that
you dont actually understand what Ai is, do you
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