the last season of big brother had such an amazing winner story. SPOILERS

honestly if you have the time you gotta check out this video summarizing it
some interesting things is that in the shows 20 plus year history taylor is the very first black woman to ever win the game. hell i think she is the only the second black woman to make the final 2 which hasnt happened since way back in season 3 (i may be wrong)
and i think she may be just the third women to beat a man in the final 2. normally women tend to win big brother when its an all female final 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52B103L7ieQ

yusiko posted...

which hasnt happened since way back in season 3 (i may be wrong)
and i think she may be just the third women to beat a man in the final 2.

you are correct on both points.

and yeah she had a hell of a story and was a great winner, and her jury management was top tier.

love Taylor she deserved it aaaaaallllllllllllllllll

I didn't watch the vid in the OP because I watched the whole season but I hope it touches on the fact that the dress everyone got mad at her for wearing at the start of the season was the one she won in :)

The leftovers forming turned last season from shit tier into a great season. Imagine a season where the final people would have been something like Daniel, Ameerah, Nicole, Jasmine, and Alyssa.

Captain_Qwark posted...

What season are they on now? I got really tired of BB and survivor after bitter juries became more common. That whole idea is lame. Play well, but not too well otherwise people will be mad at you for betraying them and you'll lose.

overall survivor and big brother are social games
the goal is to get to the end and have these people want to give you the money. no one will give the money to someone they genuinely hate and players tend to create their own bitter juries
so if you make it to the end and the jury hates you that means you failed the social aspect of the game
physical game and strategic game can get you to the end but its the social aspect that crowns the winner and always have been

you should watch the video as its shows pretty clearly just how important the social game actually is because taylor spent the first 3 weeks being bullied and hated and not only managed to put in social work to gain allies in the house but managed to make her biggest haters into her biggest supporters as they got sent to the jury house

Scintillant posted...

love Taylor she deserved it aaaaaallllllllllllllllll

I didn't watch the vid in the OP because I watched the whole season but I hope it touches on the fact that the dress everyone got mad at her for wearing at the start of the season was the one she won in :)

it doesnt touch on that but it does touch on the fact that the michael vote out was her move because she had to talk monte into it because he was dead set on sticking with turners plan to make a final 3 with michael and she talked him out of it. of course taylor spearheading that wasnt shown in the edit so you wouldnt know it if you didnt see it on the live feeds

Having a bitter jury doesn't mean you failed the social game. The whole reason it's called a bitter jury is because they're only voting against you out of spite. The only way around that is to basically not make any interesting moves or just be a popular person on the majority alliance the whole time

oh and for fans of joseph
him and taylor are dating now

WizardPowers posted...

Having a bitter jury doesn't mean you failed the social game. The whole reason it's called a bitter jury is because they're only voting against you out of spite. The only way around that is to basically not make any interesting moves or just be a popular person on the majority alliance the whole time

This isnt true. Its entirely possible to make moves while not pissing people off.

The best way is to typically ensure the losers feel like they were taken out in a reasonable way. Its when people think they lost because of a bad decision do you get bitter juries.

Survivor China displays how to do it right.

Alternatively, get to the finals with people hated more than yourself lol.

yep, through no fault of her own taylor was hated for the first 3 weeks of the show
there are compilations of literally every single house guest running her down on the live stream
but instead of just giving up taylor went to work and turned those same people who at one point hated her onto her side

to the point where jasmine and indy who spent most of their time sitting in a room talking about how much they hated taylor ended up being evicted by taylor and leaving the house wanting her to win.
that doesnt just fall into someones lap you need to put in the work to get that to happen