The Pokemon company thinks Nuzlocke runs are on the same level as ROM Hacks

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02fran
09/18/2022
10:21 AM
#1
https://twitter.com/Patterrz/status/1571446537531625472

Patterrz on Twitter: "TPC when you don't immediately use a Max Revive on a fainted Pokemon: https://t.co/JQ0gIqopYH" / Twitter
Garioshi
09/18/2022
10:23 AM
#2
Does anyone remember the dudes who would do challenge runs of games on Nintendo Video
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DarkChozoGhost
09/18/2022
10:26 AM
#3
Their company culture is really terrible at nurturing ideas
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Cheater87
09/18/2022
10:33 AM
#4
Nintendo isn't quite up to date with stuff, are they?
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DB_Insider
09/18/2022
10:34 AM
#5
Kids will love it!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/179741-omega-labyrinth/79814320
02fran
09/18/2022
10:35 AM
#6
Cheater87 posted...
Nintendo isn't quite up to date with stuff, are they?

I'd say mainly Pokemon is the black sheep here. Most of their other franchises do seem to innovate and aren't afraid of being remotely challenging.
itachi15243
09/18/2022
10:35 AM
#7
Playing the game differently is literally hacking to them? Somehow I'm not surprised.
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ZMythos
09/18/2022
10:35 AM
#8
TPC is incredibly protective of its IP. Officially acknowledging a fan name like "nuzlocke" could open a grey area for trademark reasons.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
Their company culture is really terrible at nurturing ideas
Also I agree and disagree here. TPC has tons of spinoff games, and tries new things each generation. But they have a specific style and design philosophy that they try to stick to or risk having a game be too different from the series to be considered a part of it.

To say Pokemon hasn't innovated at all would be a lie, just look at Legends as evidence of that.

But I do think they keep too tight a leash around their new ideas, instead of letting them reach higher potential (ie. Mega Evolutions)
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DB_Insider
09/18/2022
10:36 AM
#9
The Pokemon Cartel
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/179741-omega-labyrinth/79814320
Zikten
09/18/2022
10:37 AM
#10
I'm thinking there was some kind of communication error that caused this. They probably don't understand what a nuzlocke is
Damn_Underscore
09/18/2022
10:38 AM
#12
They are so lucky the games are still popular
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Hornezz
09/18/2022
10:38 AM
#13
From the follow up tweets it's sounds more like TPC wasn't aware what it was and thought it was something like a randomized game (which does involve a rom hack).
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02fran
09/18/2022
10:39 AM
#14
Zikten posted...
I'm thinking there was some kind of communication error that caused this. They probably don't understand what a nuzlocke is

The problem here then comes from them not asking for elaboration and instead getting so mad they were afraid of getting fired. And it's apparently a regular occurrence since other channels connected to TPC were cut off if they had nuzlocke videos.
DarkChozoGhost
09/18/2022
10:40 AM
#15
ZMythos posted...
TPC is incredibly protective of its IP. Officially acknowledging a fan name like "nuzlocke" could open a grey area for trademark reasons.

Also I agree and disagree here. TPC has tons of spinoff games, and tries new things each generation. But they have a specific style and design philosophy that they try to stick to or risk having a game be too different from the series to be considered a part of it.

To say Pokemon hasn't innovated at all would be a lie, just look at Legends as evidence of that.

But I do think they keep too tight a leash around their new ideas, instead of letting them reach higher potential (ie. Mega Evolutions)
I'm under the impression all the innovations comes from the top. The execs have new ideas, then the team tries to implement them with little to no room for proposing their own ideas. It's a Japanese business culture thing.
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BurmesePenguin
09/18/2022
10:43 AM
#16
What are they talking about? Did they work for the pokemon youtube channel ir sonething?
tremain07
09/18/2022
10:44 AM
#17
i want to walk with my pokemon, ride on them if i want to, fly on them if i choose, surf on them if I choose and change their pokeball if I want to.
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Nemu
09/18/2022
10:44 AM
#18
BurmesePenguin posted...
What are they talking about? Did they work for the pokemon youtube channel ir sonething?
They're probably former Treehouse staff, or some other similar more niche Nintendo team.
02fran
09/18/2022
10:46 AM
#19
They're former NoA marketing employees, Kit & Krysta.
Kim_Seong-a
09/18/2022
10:48 AM
#20
"On the same level" probably means they view nuzlockes as tainting (their idea of) the integrity of the brand.

To companies, their franchise isn't a form of art of entertainment, it's just a name. It's why WB said Catwoman's not allowed to take Batman to flavor town with her pussy, because "superheroes don't go muff diving". They don't give a fuck that giving your partner a mouthie is just something loving adult couples do, they care that a multi-gadrillion dollar trademark might look bad if he's got his tongue wrapped around Selina's-

well anyway, with Pokemon the head honchos probably think of the idea of "perma death" in Pokemon as an anathema. Pokemon don't die (except all the times that they do), the players Pokemon live forever because they're your best friend that you're going to spend all your parents money on. Don't feel sad! Your charmander wasn't bisected by Aegislash! He's just...fainted! And he likes fighting! Just take your best pal to the free hospital because there are no bad vibes in PokeLand!
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Compsognathus
09/18/2022
10:49 AM
#21
Not surprising in the least.
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Jagr_68
09/18/2022
10:55 AM
#22
Pokemon has been business for over 30 years idk why gamers would be offended or surprised Nintendo is outright against any ideas for their own IP.

*edit*
Meant 20 years lol
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HannibalBarca3
09/18/2022
10:59 AM
#23
Jagr_68 posted...
Pokemon has been business for over 30 years idk why gamers would be offended or surprised Nintendo is outright against any ideas for their own IP.

*edit*
Meant 20 years lol
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Touch
09/18/2022
11:02 AM
#24
I just recently played a hack where they made it a roguelike. You start with one poke, get shit and if you wipe or finish the run, you start back from just your starter but can buy stuff that carries on to the rest of your playthroughs. Lots of quality of life features, stuff up to gen 8 despite using FireRed as the base rom, etc. Crazy how ambitious rom hackers are these days
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Puglia77
09/18/2022
11:05 AM
#25
ZMythos posted...
Officially acknowledging a fan name like "nuzlocke" could open a grey area for trademark reasons.
You do realize the word "shiny" is literally a fan name right?
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Jagr_68
09/18/2022
11:08 AM
#26
HannibalBarca3 posted...
Its not Nintendo.

Nintendo owns Pokemon.
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kirbymuncher
09/18/2022
11:11 AM
#27
for some reason this reminds me of this https://files.catbox.moe/8q6v8n.mp4
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Solar_Crimson
09/18/2022
11:58 AM
#28
Jagr_68 posted...
Nintendo owns Pokemon.
And TPC operates almost completely independently from Nintendo.
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Hayame_Zero
09/18/2022
12:01 PM
#29
Jagr_68 posted...
Nintendo owns Pokemon.

Nintendo owns it, but The Pokemon Company works independently and makes the creative decisions. It goes through them before Nintendo.
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HannibalBarca3
09/18/2022
03:28 PM
#30
Jagr_68 posted...
Nintendo owns Pokemon.
Nintendo co-owns Pokemon.
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KFHEWUI
09/18/2022
03:31 PM
#31
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1571515808005636105
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tremain07
09/18/2022
03:34 PM
#32
Leave it to Joe to immediately jump to the pokemon company's defense, it's especially weird because it's not like they give him special gifts or even pay him
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Zikten
09/18/2022
06:44 PM
#33
KFHEWUI posted...
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1571515808005636105
Someone probably finally managed to explain to a Japanese boardroom what nuzlocke is, and they are trying to backtrack the controversy
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