What Race Were The Ancient Romans?

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Well, they certainly were not Romani, unless ye laik dags.*

*Editor's note: I have Romani ancestors.

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fake greeks, and a whole bunch of races they enslaved/conquered.
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Trojan ask Aeneas

Ack Anotolian, Greek?

That is the myth at least according to Virgil and the bloodline from Aeneas
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monkmith posted...
fake greeks, and a whole bunch of races they enslaved/conquered.

"Fake Greeks" who, entirely by accident, revolutionised engineering and military strategy.

Meanwhile, in Greece: *Intense Omphaloskepsis*
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Starmieketone posted...
"Fake Greeks" who, entirely by accident, revolutionised engineering and military strategy.

Meanwhile, in Greece: *Intense Omphaloskepsis*
you act like being a fake greek makes them less intelligent. i call them fake greeks because they subsumed the greek lifestyle and religion and propped it up as their own, which is what they did with a lot of the stuff they conquered.
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Starmieketone posted...
"Fake Greeks" who, entirely by accident, revolutionised engineering and military strategy.

Meanwhile, in Greece: *Intense Omphaloskepsis*
What revolution in military strategy?
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monkmith posted...
you act like being a fake greek makes them less intelligent. i call them fake greeks because they subsumed the greek lifestyle and religion and propped it up as their own, which is what they did with a lot of the stuff they conquered.
Well "fake" implies a certain inferiority, at the very least.

In any other implication, I agree wholeheartedly. However, the Romans furthered the technical arts greatly. Oh, so very greatly. However, they entirely ignored the epistemological arts.

Lol, get it? lol
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HannibalBarca3 posted...
What revolution in military strategy?
My dear boy, tell me, how are your lolephants?
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Italians pretending to be Greeks...so white/mediterainan.
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They were mediterraneans.

They probably looked closer to italians, spaniards, portuguese and the whiter-looking latin americans than to the nordic or wasp peoples that hollywood would make you believe
ZeroX91 posted...
Italians pretending to be Greeks...so white/mediterainan.

See also: trampling upon Etruscans.
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Starmieketone posted...
My dear boy, tell me, how are your lolephants?
What. Oh it's the username lol

Honestly despite the username I really don't know much about Rome. I asked because the other day I read a pretty interesting article that made a pretty convincing case that the Romans during the Republic do not live up to the image we associate them with. One of highly disciplined men fighting like a pack of sardines, that one famous battle scene from HBO's Rome comes to mind. Instead the Romans have much more in common with fierce and aggresive, undisciplined and individual barbarian stereotype.
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Ask Scipio about Roman tactics

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furb posted...
Trojan ask Aeneas

came in here to post this

as for the trojans themselves... some skimming seems to suggest it's somewhat inconclusive as to their origins, though it's speculated they were related to the hittites.

it's safe to say, however, the trojans were of the anatolian branch of the indo-european family.

if the aenid hypothesis is true, then, "core" romans would be some mix of anatolian and italian. linguistically speaking though, their latin tongue is (speculated to be) of the italo-celtic branch of the indo-european family.
HannibalBarca3 posted...
What. Oh it's the username lol

Honestly despite the username I really don't know much about Rome. I asked because the other day I read a pretty interesting article that made a pretty convincing case that the Romans during the Republic do not live up to the image we associate them with. One of highly disciplined men fighting like a pack of sardines, that one famous battle scene from HBO's Rome comes to mind. Instead the Romans have much more in common with fierce and aggresive, undisciplined and individual barbarian stereotype.

In the interest of full disclosure, my interest in Roman Culture has been their engineering exploits and, well, their culture.

However, from what I recall, their true innovation (aside from learning to crib unashamedly from the Greeks like they are The Hawt Girl in a class from The Bookish Submissive Nerd) was to strictly codify military practice. Honestly, they tore strips off most of Europe and expanded outwards before societal pressures began to tear the civilisation apart from within (this begetting the Eastern and Western Roman Empires). They were an Empire that became defined and made whole by constant, unsustainable expansion.
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They were Roman of course.
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SauI_Goodman posted...
If Gladiator taught me anything it's that Russell Crowe is white.
iirc russell crowe's character was from hispania, formerly celtic territory conquered by the romans

doesn't really get to the bottom of the question of the origins of the romans of rome
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardanians_%28Trojan%29?wprov=sfla1
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At their peak that would have covered a very diverse range of races.
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