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Questionmarktarius posted...
Simple workaround:
No sales tax on foodstuff that is exactly one ingredient, or exactly one ingredient plus water.
Congrats. You have reinstituted the salt tax that caused a revolution in India.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Congrats. You have reinstituted the salt tax that caused a revolution in India.

Now now, it's also a de facto sugar tax.
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Something Obama did right was make the capital gains tax more progressive. But that was stopped by the Trump tax cuts which is BS. And it could be a lot more progressive than it was during the Obama era. Taxing capital gains is a lot more fair than taxing income, because capital gains don't require any work and benefit people who are already rich more than anyone else.

Some of the takes in this topic are sad, and I wonder how much of it is trolling.


Sales tax is the best tax.

Punish consumption, not production.

The only reason so many people are against sales taxes is because they are poor and dont pay any income tax in the first place. But reality is reality...we should punish consumption. Always.


I'm cool with sales tax (even a value added tax) as long as it doesn't apply to necessities like non-prepared food, medicine, and clothing. Unfortunately a lot of states tax those things, especially clothing. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States#By_jurisdiction)
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I'm cool with sales tax (even a value added tax) as long as it doesn't apply to necessities like non-prepared food, medicine, and clothing. Unfortunately a lot of states tax those things, especially clothing. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States#By_jurisdiction)

The obvious flaw here, is disagreement over exactly what "necessities" means.
Questionmarktarius posted...
The obvious flaw here, is disagreement over exactly what "necessities" means.


It seems like you can probably get a pretty good bar for necessity vs not necessity based on the cost of the item.

No sales tax on any one unprepared individual food item costing less than $15 (or $15 per pound for by-weight items) or $150 for bulk food items.

No sales tax on any one individual clothing item costing less than $90 (this should encompass pretty much everything including higher priced "fat" clothing)

No sales tax on any hygenic products

No sales tax on water

etc.

Alternatively make the producer pay the sales tax.
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I'm cool with sales tax (even a value added tax) as long as it doesn't apply to necessities like non-prepared food, medicine, and clothing. Unfortunately a lot of states tax those things, especially clothing. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States#By_jurisdiction)

The obvious flaw here, is disagreement over exactly what "necessities" means.


Groceries, medicine (at least prescription medicine), and clothing seems like an obvious starting point. Some states only tax a clothing item when it costs more than some price, which is fair.

Really it's a matter of lobbying. In California, there is no sales tax on livestock, crops and seeds, and fertilizer used to grow food, which I wouldn't have thought of, but I agree all of those shouldn't be taxed.

Most other countries make a VAT work, so I don't see why we couldn't.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Alternatively make the producer pay the sales tax.

The purchaser will pay the tax anyway, just not directly.
we should just tax everything equally and then address the cost of necessities through other mechanisms, like tax refunds or credits or other public subsidies
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Questionmarktarius posted...
https://corporate.walmart.com/newsroom/company-facts

So, if this were somehow liquidated, assuming it even can, and then redistributed to walmart employees, it would be a whopping $1.82 an hour.


That is almost 300 a month and 3500 a year.
@Dyinglegacy Id even argue all those other inequalities stem from the massive wealth imbalance. In other words, if you improve everyones financial situations a lot of racism, anti-LGBTQ sentiment, etc. will disappear.
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
https://corporate.walmart.com/newsroom/company-facts

So, if this were somehow liquidated, assuming it even can, and then redistributed to walmart employees, it would be a whopping $1.82 an hour.


That is almost 300 a month and 3500 a year.


except it wouldn't be 3500 a year, because they'd have no reason to keep the business open if it's making no money.
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thronedfire2 posted...
except it wouldn't be 3500 a year, because they'd have no reason to keep the business open if it's making no money.


this isn't even the business's income, it's the change in value of their shares of ownership, which are valued at a substantial multiple over the business's income
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More important than raising Wal Mart employee's wages, it'd only cost them about 83% of their annual income to end world hunger (in other words, they would only be making like, $680,000 an hour). And that's just them.
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joe40001 posted...
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tamagucci posted...
$70,000 per minute. That's more than a lot of peoples annual income.


From that amount alone they could double the income of everybody in the us under the poverty line and have INCOME left over.


they could liquidate their entire wealth and it would only be enough to give every walmart employee a $1.82/hr raise

and then they'd all lose their jobs because the business wouldn't be making any money


Um no

70k per minute GAINED

There is 1.5 million households in the poverty line which means Under 25k per year. Let's say their average income is 20k per year

70k/20k = 3.5 households could double their income per minute

There are 525600 minutes in a year. So if you doubled everybody at or below the poverty line, assuming +20k*1.5million you'd have enough left over for them still to be making 12.9k per minute

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
annual income


one of the sticking points is it's not income, but rather capital appreciation
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Good for them on maintaining their incomes on lock. lol at the haters in this thread. That's why you people will never get far in life: Too busy being envious while hating on complete strangers.

So you must be a millionaire, right?


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thanosibe posted...
Lol. Defending what? Dependents who benefited from their fathers hard work of building his own company and continue to work to let it grow and benefit their decendents? Bitter people need to let it go ffs.

Sucking up to the new royalty won't get you into their ranks.
I dont need to get into their ranks nor need their money. I earn my own and am by no means wealthy but still quite happy in life thank you.

Yeah, fuck having a better society. Let the rich hoard wealth while millions live paycheck to paycheck. You don't care because you've got yours. Your worldview is naive and self-centered.
What should be and what is, unfortunately, is two different things. Yeah it would be nice if rich spread their wealth. But the reality is they wont. No more than most people are going to give their last $20 to someone on the street, justifying they need it to feed themselves.

And Ive lived paycheck to paycheck. And Ive struggled raising my family. But in each instance I worked to try and better my situation than expend energy on caring about what the wealthy do with their wealth. And whether or not I am hypothetically entitled to it.

They don't live in a bubble. Their wealth hoarding affects everyone, including you. You claim not to care but you care enough to repeatedly defend this gross wealth hoarding.
Ooo ooo I can make generalizations about people I know nothing about!!!!

Hmmmm ....

Oh I got one. You just want the rich to distribute the wealth they accumulated because you want a hand out so you can sit on your ass and cry on the internet instead of get a job.

Did I do it right? Yeah Im done here.

LOOOL! To think you called others bitter. I'm doing well for myself, but unlike you, I don't go "fuck you, I got mine" because I think about people other than myself. Oh right, you also have great concern for billionaires. What a fucking saint you are.
Fines should be income based too.

Like someone earning 200 a week would only have to pay 20 at the most, while someone who earns 4 million an hour which is like over half a billion in a week should pay like 200 million since they can comfortably afford it.

Fines are supposed to be deterrents, but rich people couldn't care less because of how cheap it is to them.
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LightningAce11 posted...
Fines should be income based too.

Fines shouldn't exist anyway.
If the offense isn't worth incarceration, even if it's just an "adult time-out" of maybe half a day in county custody, then maybe it's not an offense worth worrying about.
Vicious_Dios posted...
Good for them on maintaining their incomes on lock. lol at the haters in this thread. That's why you people will never get far in life: Too busy being envious while hating on complete strangers.

Pretty much. Instead of hating on the rich maybe they should aspire for that life. Only 1 in 10 rich people, tops, got there through inheritance or dumb lottery luck, the other 90% earned it the hard way. But it's like lecturing a wall, they want everything to fall in their lap with no effort and lash out when it doesn't, all while continuing to put forth no effort because "it's not fair others get to be rich"
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still not enough to offset a 1$ increase in minimum wage across the board
All that hard work paying off. It's their money!
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voldothegr8 posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Good for them on maintaining their incomes on lock. lol at the haters in this thread. That's why you people will never get far in life: Too busy being envious while hating on complete strangers.

Pretty much. Instead of hating on the rich maybe they should aspire for that life. Only 1 in 10 rich people, tops, got there through inheritance or dumb lottery luck, the other 90% earned it the hard way. But it's like lecturing a wall, they want everything to fall in their lap with no effort and lash out when it doesn't, all while continuing to put forth no effort because "it's not fair others get to be rich"


Got a citation for that? XD
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