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Its okay to admit you really enjoyed it.
https://youtu.be/vtef2lOW_zg
This time I only made it about 3 seconds before turning it off.
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
ParanoidObsessive posted...
This time I only made it about 3 seconds before turning it off.
Thats not nearly long enough for a thorough evaluation. Please press the play button to commence re-evaluation.
It has early-2000's energy and a nice melody. 8/10.
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Stimpy posted...
Thats not nearly long enough for a thorough evaluation. Please press the play button to commence re-evaluation.

Sorry, no. You forfeited your time by picking bad music again.

Next time, please choose a song worth hearing.
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
With my eyes closed this is extremely not my genre.

The video however evokes a visceral hatred reaction.
3/10.
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KJ_StErOiDs posted...
It has early-2000's energy and a nice melody. 8/10.
Yesss! I knew you guys would love it!
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Sorry, no. You forfeited your time by picking bad music again.

Next time, please choose a song worth hearing.
One of these days ima pick a punk song you love. Mark my words mister!
It may be because I'm a bit buzzed but it isn't horrible. Definitely not enjoyable, but tolerable. The hook is approaching pleasant territory, but only slightly.

Although

VioletZer0 posted...
With my eyes closed this is extremely not my genre.

The video however evokes a visceral hatred reaction.

Stimpy posted...
One of these days ima pick a punk song you love. Mark my words mister!

Sorry mate, this is very much NOT punk.
Salrite posted...
Sorry mate, this is very much NOT punk.
The Ramones created pop punk, and theyre very much a punk band. NOFX is a punk band and Franco Unamerican is very much a pop punk song.

Pop Punk is still punk.
Stimpy posted...
Pop Punk is still punk.

Hard disagree. And this goes for any "Pop Fusion". Once you introduce Pop, it becomes Pop.
Salrite posted...
Hard disagree. And this goes for any "Pop Fusion". Once you introduce Pop, it becomes Pop.
So then nofx stopped being punk once they released Franco Unamerican? Dead Kenedys stopped being punk when they put out I fought the law? Face to face is no longer punk because of Blind? And Sum-41 suddenly became punk when they put out hardcore albums?

Your gatekeeping makes zero sense bro.
Maybe that argument could be considered for other fusions, but Pop is literally the antithesis of Punk.

Pop = Pop Culture
Punk = Counter Culture
Stimpy posted...
One of these days ima pick a punk song you love.

I'm detecting the flaw in your plan.















Actually, to be completely fair, there is precisely one song that you could potentially win with. Good luck figuring out which one it is! You've only got to try tens of thousands of songs from across about 50 decades.
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
ParanoidObsessive posted...
I'm detecting the flaw in your plan.

Actually, to be completely fair, there is precisely one song that you could potentially win with. Good luck figuring out which one it is! You've only got to try tens of thousands of songs from across about 50 decades.
Challenge accepted!
If you can't guess it in the first 100, I'll give you a hint.







Also, I can think of at least a couple different potential loopholes for the original challenge. If you manage to find one of those, I'll magnanimously acknowledge you as the winner anyway.
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
ParanoidObsessive posted...
If you can't guess it in the first 100, I'll give you a hint.

Also, I can think of at least a couple different potential loopholes for the original challenge. If you manage to find one of those, I'll magnanimously acknowledge you as the winner anyway.
Heres 50. Am I close?

1. Misery Business Paramore
2. Basket Case Green Day
3. Whats My Age Again? Blink-182
4. Sugar, Were Goin Down Fall Out Boy
5. Dear Maria, Count Me In All Time Low
6. The Anthem Good Charlotte
7. I Write Sins Not Tragedies Panic! At The Disco
8. Fat Lip Sum 41
9. Ocean Avenue Yellowcard
10. Helena My Chemical Romance
11. In Too Deep Sum 41
12. The Middle Jimmy Eat World
13. My Friends Over You New Found Glory
14. Addicted Simple Plan
15. Swing, Swing The All-American Rejects
16. Check Yes Juliet We The Kings
17. Dirty Little Secret The All-American Rejects
18. American Idiot Green Day
19. Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous Good Charlotte
20. Im Just a Kid Simple Plan
21. Dance, Dance Fall Out Boy
22. Welcome to My Life Simple Plan
23. The Great Escape Boys Like Girls
24. Move Along The All-American Rejects
25. Holiday Green Day
26. All the Small Things Blink-182
27. Vindicated Dashboard Confessional
28. Until the Day I Die Story of the Year
29. Memory Sugarcult
30. Monsters (feat. blackbear) All Time Low
31. Beating Heart Baby Head Automatica
32. Punk Rock Princess Something Corporate
33. Inside Out Eve 6
34. A Match Into Water Pierce the Veil
35. Miserable at Best Mayday Parade
36. I Dont Care Fall Out Boy
37. Boulevard of Broken Dreams Green Day
38. I Miss You Blink-182
39. Ohio Is for Lovers Hawthorne Heights
40. Face Down The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
41. Stupid Kid Alkaline Trio
42. The Taste of Ink The Used
43. Pressure Paramore
44. I Caught Fire The Used
45. Savior Rise Against
46. MakeDamnSure Taking Back Sunday A
47. Modern Swinger The Pink Spiders
48. Save Me (Wake Up Call) Unwritten Law
49. Little Razorblade The Pink Spiders
50. She Says Unwritten Law
Stimpy posted...
Heres 50. Am I close?

Nope.

To be fair, I kind of like Misery Business, I Write Sins Not Tragedies, and Inside Out. But I don't love them.

And I'm not sure I'd call Paramore, Panic! At The Disco, or Eve 6 punk bands in the first place (Paramore leans a bit too much into pop and alt rock, Eve 6 tends towards Southern California alt rock, and Panic has been called pop punk and emo punk but there's a lot of other influence in there as well), so I'm not sure they'd even count anyway. Definitely not those specific songs, per se.

(Or, at least, I'd argue that the parts of those songs I do like are less the punk aspects, and more the pop/rock aspects)


Incidentally, "band that used to play punk, but then went mainstream and mostly stopped playing punk in favor of more traditional pop/rock" describes a number of different bands. And it's the reason why I probably wouldn't say a song like "Gone Away" by The Offspring counts, even if they were technically a punk band for at least some of their time. It's not really a punk song . You could probably throw Everclear into that mix as well.

And now that I've gone off on that tangent... the swing revival might be dangerous ground as well, depending on where you think it falls on the ska/punk versus the swing/big band/jazz side of the line. I definitely lean more towards swing/jazz, but the ska is definitely in there.
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
Stimpy posted...

Thats not nearly long enough for a thorough evaluation. Please press the play button to commence re-evaluation.


I did the same thing he did.
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Revelation34 posted...
I did the same thing he did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZSBEi9afo
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Nope.

To be fair, I kind of like Misery Business, I Write Sins Not Tragedies, and Inside Out. But I don't love them.

And I'm not sure I'd call Paramore, Panic! At The Disco, or Eve 6 punk bands in the first place (Paramore leans a bit too much into pop and alt rock, Eve 6 tends towards Southern California alt rock, and Panic has been called pop punk and emo punk but there's a lot of other influence in there as well), so I'm not sure they'd even count anyway. Definitely not those specific songs, per se.

(Or, at least, I'd argue that the parts of those songs I do like are less the punk aspects, and more the pop/rock aspects)

Incidentally, "band that used to play punk, but then went mainstream and mostly stopped playing punk in favor of more traditional pop/rock" describes a number of different bands. And it's the reason why I probably wouldn't say a song like "Gone Away" by The Offspring counts, even if they were technically a punk band for at least some of their time. It's not really a punk song . You could probably throw Everclear into that mix as well.

And now that I've gone off on that tangent... the swing revival might be dangerous ground as well, depending on where you think it falls on the ska/punk versus the swing/big band/jazz side of the line. I definitely lean more towards swing/jazz, but the ska is definitely in there.
I agree that eve 6 is definitely not a punk band, but Id say that song skews close enough to the pop punk genre to include it. Panic! Is (or at least was) emo, which is a sub genre of punk, and Paramore was def pop punk in that first album. Theyre a completely different genre now though.

I consider pop punk, emo, and easycore to all be punk. Just different sides of the same coin.

Also is the song you like by Kill Lincoln? Cuz if it isnt, it should be. Youd love them if you like ska. Youd also dig old Goldfinger.
Revelation34 posted...
I did the same thing he did.
Ill pretend I didnt hear that.
Stimpy posted...
Also is the song you like by Kill Lincoln? Cuz if it isnt, it should be. Youd love them if you like ska. Youd also dig old Goldfinger.

Oh no, I definitely don't like ska. Though that might be semi-related to the hint I was going to give you.

Also semi-related to the clue is the fact that Orange 9mm once almost hung out and partied at my apartment in the late 90s. But then didn't due to scheduling issues.

NOT related to the clue, but semi-related to the last bit of info - I went to high school with some of the members of a different band that played on the Warped Tour in the early 2000s.



...the clue was basically going to be that my roommate in college was huge into the punk scene in general (he was Straight Edge at the time, though that became a hilarious punchline years later when he started drinking more than most of his friends). And most of the posters he had on the walls were punk bands (including Fugazi). And he was pretty heavy into ska and skate punk. And he kept trying to get most of the rest of us to listen to his music. So I was exposed to a TON of punk bands in the late 90s era. He was the first case of someone trying to desperately find a punk song that I would like.

...and I hated pretty much all of it. Which is basically where my anti-punk leanings tended to start. Though arguably they started years earlier, because my taste and preferences for music leans heavily into the melody side, and that has never been punk's strong suit. But college was where I heard tons of punk I'd never heard before, so suddenly I had the exposure to realize I didn't like it.

I will admit that he managed to slightly win me over with Bad Religion. Mainly because I kind of tolerated a few songs off Recipe for Hate (Struck a Nerve, Portrait of Authority). And I kind of like American Jesus.

It is arguably the only punk album I have ever owned on CD (again, I'm counting Everclear as a border case).

But it is NOT the punk song I would classify as an option for "love".
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oh no, I definitely don't like ska. Though that might be semi-related to the hint I was going to give you.

Also semi-related to the clue is the fact that Orange 9mm once almost hung out and partied at my apartment in the late 90s. But then didn't due to scheduling issues.

NOT related to the clue, but semi-related to the last bit of info - I went to high school with some of the members of a different band that played on the Warped Tour in the early 2000s.

...the clue was basically going to be that my roommate in college was huge into the punk scene in general (he was Straight Edge at the time, though that became a hilarious punchline years later when he started drinking more than most of his friends). And most of the posters he had on the walls were punk bands (including Fugazi). And he was pretty heavy into ska and skate punk. And he kept trying to get most of the rest of us to listen to his music. So I was exposed to a TON of punk bands in the late 90s era. He was the first case of someone trying to desperately find a punk song that I would like.

...and I hated pretty much all of it. Which is basically where my anti-punk leanings tended to start. Though arguably they started years earlier, because my taste and preferences for music leans heavily into the melody side, and that has never been punk's strong suit. But college was where I heard tons of punk I'd never heard before, so suddenly I had the exposure to realize I didn't like it.

I will admit that he managed to slightly win me over with Bad Religion. Mainly because I kind of tolerated a few songs off Recipe for Hate (Struck a Nerve, Portrait of Authority). And I kind of like American Jesus.

It is arguably the only punk album I have ever owned on CD (again, I'm counting Everclear as a border case).

But it is NOT the punk song I would classify as an option for "love".
Fun Fact: Fugazi was the very first emo band!

Also if you like melody, why dont you like pop punk? Its literally pop chord progressions played fast. And I say that as a guitarist myself. Case in point, somewhere over the rainbow is extremely melodic. Now just speed it up:
https://youtu.be/UFP6iGcUpFQ

Did your friend ever successfully get you into punk? Or were you saying a song by bad religion was the song you were hinting at? (Great band btw)
Stimpy posted...
Also if you like melody, why dont you like pop punk? Its literally pop chord progressions played

For the same reason I can enjoy Coca-Cola and hate mayo, and not view a glass of MayoCoke as an appealing option.

Once you start mixing the things I don't like into the things I do like, the end result is generally going to be something I dislike.

Or to put it another way, I tend to like pop. But the more you move it towards pop punk (or even just straight punk), the less I'm going to like it.



Stimpy posted...
Did your friend ever successfully get you into punk? Or were you saying a song by bad religion was the song you were hinting at? (Great band btw)

Oh, hell no. That's sort of why I'm confident you'd have a very hard time ever finding a punk song I like. Because I've heard a lot of punk, and I dislike or actively hate most of it.

As for Bad Religion, no. I definitely don't love them. They were firmly in the "sorta like" category. And even then, only for a couple of songs off one album.

But knowing that might point you more in the right direction to find the one punk song I'm willing to admit that I kind of love.
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
ParanoidObsessive posted...
For the same reason I can enjoy Coca-Cola and hate mayo, and not view a glass of MayoCoke as an appealing option.

Once you start mixing the things I don't like into the things I do like, the end result is generally going to be something I dislike.

Or to put it another way, I tend to like pop. But the more you move it towards pop punk (or even just straight punk), the less I'm going to like it.

Oh, hell no. That's sort of why I'm confident you'd have a very hard time ever finding a punk song I like. Because I've heard a lot of punk, and I dislike or actively hate most of it.

As for Bad Religion, no. I definitely don't love them. They were firmly in the "sorta like" category. And even then, only for a couple of songs off one album.

But knowing that might point you more in the right direction to find the one punk song I'm willing to admit that I kind of love.
But if I post any you turn them off before you even get to the good part you cant challenge me to find one you like and then dismiss it before the first chorus.

I can try different types of punk, but you gotta give me something to work with!
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