what happens if tipping becomes strictly illegal?

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For me personally, it'd mean I no longer tip. For an industry that pays relying on customers to supplement shoddy pay with their tips now, it'd mean they'd either have to pay properly or find a perpetual manpower shortage.
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Tipping isnt really a thing here, so it wouldnt hugely affect me.
The Alamo theatre chain started baking in a service charge to your bill that goes straight to the wait staff, so that kind of eliminates all future need for tipping right there. I'm fine with that as a practice.

I personally think restaurants should just up each menu item by 2 or 3% then pay out more to their wait staff.
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...and then every restaurant raises their prices because they suddenly have to pay their employees a living wage, people go to those places less because they're not willing to pay more, the businesses lose money, and wind up having to fire some of their staff.

Tipping is terrible and should absolutely be abolished, but it's so ingrained it wouldn't be a pretty transition.
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GanglyKhan posted...
The Alamo theatre chain started baking in a service charge to your bill that goes straight to the wait staff, so that kind of eliminates all future need for tipping right there. I'm fine with that as a practice.

I personally think restaurants should just up each menu item by 2 or 3% then pay out more to their wait staff.

?.... That's called "paying them a wage".

And no, the solution is paying them a wage, not raising the prices, and paying managers/shareholders/owners less.

The solution is so fucking easy yet so many people have been brainwashed into thinking upper management is somehow important.
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I would stop being a server, there's no way they would pay me anywhere close to what I make now

KingInBlack posted...
The solution is so fucking easy yet so many people have been brainwashed into thinking upper management is somehow important.
This is a big problem, prices go up already to give guys that literally have no impact on the company more money while shafting the workers that actually make it run. The regional manager will come into my work, nitpick how we do stuff, and leave without anything changing, that's his whole job, and he gets a bonus for making sure we don't get OT.
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That will never happen. Making it so employers must pay employees livable wages without tips should become a society standard but you can't stop customers from tipping if they want to.

Although, I can get in trouble at my job if I accept a tip, no matter how adamant the customer is about tipping me.
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KingInBlack posted...
And no, the solution is paying them a wage, not raising the prices, and paying managers/shareholders/owners less.

Let's say a manager makes $80,000 a year running a theatre and has 30 staff members. How much should we reduce the manager's pay by? $20,000?

So now you split $20,000 across the remaining 29 employees.

$20,000 / 29 = $689.65

So each employee now receives an additional $689.65 per year. What is that in monthly pay?

$689.65 / 12 = $57.47

So everyone gets an extra $57.47 each month, which if you work full time at 40 hours a week....

$57.47 / 4 weeks / 40 hours = $0.36/hour

You get everyone a $0.36/hour raise in the most ideal conditions for slashing one person's income by 25%.

The solution is not as simple as you think it is.
GanglyKhan posted...
Let's say a manager makes $80,000 a year running a theatre and has 30 staff members. How much should we reduce the manager's pay by? $20,000?

So now you split $20,000 across the remaining 29 employees.

$20,000 / 29 = $689.65

So each employee now receives an additional $689.65 per year. What is that in monthly pay?

$689.65 / 12 = $57.47

So everyone gets an extra $57.47 each month, which if you work full time at 40 hours a week....

$57.47 / 4 weeks / 40 hours = $0.36/hour

You get everyone a $0.36/hour raise in the most ideal conditions for slashing one person's income by 25%.

The solution is not as simple as you think it is.
Ok but what about the regional/higher up managers making 6 figures to go into the restaurant/store/whatever once a month or so, nitpick how things are going, and dip?
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Muscles posted...
Ok but what about the regional/higher up managers making 6 figures to go into the restaurant/store/whatever once a month or so, nitpick how things are going, and dip?

I'm going to assume there's more to that that I'm missing, what's the problem or problems that you see with that?

I know there are complications but I don't want to assume what your specific angle is.

Someone still has to manage at the end of the day, if each location was purely responsible for their own numbers, acquisitions, restock, etc; then they'd just be an independent business and not a franchised one.

There's benefit to businesses operating as chains, while some fronts barely turn a profit, they still provide benefit to their local community and uphold the overall company image. It takes people overseeing all of that to accomplish.
Who the hell tips at a movie theater?
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Revelation34 posted...
Who the hell tips at a movie theater?

It's a chain where you order food and drinks and they send people out to deliver it to your table.
Restaurants will either add 20% to the menu or create some new tax on the bill like "server appreciation" or some crap
Servers would either get paid more (baseline) or stop showing up for work for a baseline $3/hour

And Fox News would be running a lot of propaganda about how the country is over. Basically this would never happen out of nowhere and would need some crazy run up because leftists aren't really even talking about this.
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Most restaurants operate in the black or very close to it, so while tipping is a bad thing, it is either that or kill the entire service industry altogether.

Personally, I vote for that latter.
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Dikitain posted...
Most restaurants operate in the black or very close to it, so while tipping is a bad thing, it is either that or kill the entire service industry altogether.

Personally, I vote for that latter.
This guy wants to take jobs away instead of improving the wage and cost of goods systems.
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SunWuKung420 posted...
This guy wants to take jobs away instead of improving the wage and cost of goods systems.

I don't his specific angle, but I do see this reaction a lot and people tend to forget that any time one industry disappears, others pop up in its place to fulfill the economical or cultural niche.

Assuming restaurants collapse, other food services will take their place and grocery markets and kitchenware suppliers would see a huge uptick, meaning more employment opportunities in those areas. It would just be a matter of gradually and softly transferring jobs from one zone to the next
I'd feel bad for the workers relying on it and encourage them to find a new job.
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Should you tip if you get a rude waitress/waiter?
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Tipping is an American thing right?
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Falgos posted...
Tipping is an American thing right?

Not exclusively, but American tipping culture differs from that of many other places, and tends to be at the forefront of any online tipping discussions.
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adjl posted...
Not exclusively, but American tipping culture differs from that of many other places, and tends to be at the forefront of any online tipping discussions.
I know in Asian Regions, it's considered rude.

Revelation34 posted...
Should you tip if you get a rude waitress/waiter?
How rude we askin'?
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Honestly, I wish it would.
Falgos posted...

I know in Asian Regions, it's considered rude.

How rude we askin'?


Rude.
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I for one tip automatically based on where I am (adjusting % in the USA compared to home, skipping in a locale where one doesn't), not based on satisfaction. Something's wrong, I will ask for it to be fixed. Not done to my satisfaction, I may not return there, but I still tip that time.

But I don't eat out nearly enough for it to matter much. Once, this year, where the bill was on me. When it's not, I don't want to know what whoever picked it up did.
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The time is ripe for the resurrection of the Automat.
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Starbucks is already preparing for the next labor dispute...
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I kinda like that idea if they did it similar to a Freestyle machine and made it so it could also make frappuchinos too.
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Revelation34 posted...
Should you tip if you get a rude waitress/waiter?
All I know is that I wouldn't.
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