PSA: Youtube is a garbage service and doesn't deserve your money

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Hail Hydra
The timestamps are important.

And I came to this determination years before this incident, when had years of updates without a single one of them ever being anything remotely positive.

Hell, I remember when their videos were locked at 301 views due to a bug. Their fix, for ~3 weeks? Add a plus sign so that they read 301+.

Despite being bought by Google, it took them forever to actually hire and maintain a proper workforce to support their own infrastructure.
Hail Hydra
The problem is that YouTube is essentially a monopolized platform for free online content, so even if you know and accept it's a garbage service run by garbage people there really aren't many alternatives to switch to. Which can become an even more difficult thing when you're consuming most of your media content from them because you've dropped cable TV and most streaming services are kind of shit.

But yes, it's been true for years now that YouTube can and will ban pretty much anyone for anything they feel like, and the only real way to ever get it overturned is if you are a larger creator with a fanbase who can weaponize public opinion via Twitter or other means. They don't care about you, because you're not the customer. You are a resource they can and will exploit.



Krow_Incarnate posted...
Despite being bought by Google

I would argue that being bought by Google has only exacerbated most of the problems with YouTube. Google is a horrifically corrupt company (there's a reason they dropped "don't be evil" as a motto).

As for infrastructure, you should be amazed it exists at all. It's been pretty clear for years now their ideal scenario is one where the entire site is run by AI bots and the algorithm and they never need to pay a single human to interact with anyone, because they resent you wasting their time and costing them money.
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No idea what you're talking about. I have never had an issue with Youtube after using it for 19 years.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

I not only agree with everything you said, it perfectly sums up how I've always felt.

Judgmenl posted...
No idea what you're talking about. I have never had an issue with Youtube after using it for 19 years.

This is the equivalent of certain morons going, "P-p-performance issues?! My game runs perfectly smooth and is 100% bug-free"

Hell, regardless of your experience, I literally posted photo evidence of YouTube "management" shitting the bed and being awful.
Hail Hydra
I have no idea what you are talking about. I use Vivaldi and have a modern GPU. Hell, I don't have Youtube issues using the Revanced App and my phone is nearing like 8 years old?
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
The problem is that YouTube is essentially a monopolized platform for free online content, so even if you know and accept it's a garbage service run by garbage people there really aren't many alternatives to switch to. Which can become an even more difficult thing when you're consuming most of your media content from them because you've dropped cable TV and most streaming services are kind of shit.

Even if every user purchased Premium service, Google would still be running Youtube at a loss with how massive its scope is. But they accept this loss because of their monopoly on what is essentially a public service at this point for the dissemination of user based information. And they utilize this asset to perform social experimentation on a mass level. What content people are willing to consume, what policies they're willing to put up with when given no other options, what "truth" they're willing to accept. Just one piece in Google's massive plan of world domination.
youtube is not running at a loss, it's turned profit for google for years

hell, just the ad revenue from youtube made up like 15% of googles total profits recently

something like 28 billion was made on just the ads through it. youtube isn't going to cost more than 28 billion to run for a year
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On the related topic, YouTube's algorithm just recommended this video to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7_R3xFnN4


It looks like that channel has done a bunch of videos on this topic. Including at least one that might be of use to you:

https://www.youtube.com/@DeepHumor/videos



Judgmenl posted...
No idea what you're talking about. I have never had an issue with Youtube after using it for 19 years.

Are you a content creator? Or do you just browse videos?

Because it's easy to never have an issue if you're only engaging with it on the most basic level. Even easier if you're not paying enough attention to notice the issues you are having (like having creators you follow getting screwed over, which affects what you're able to see).
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I couldn't give a crap about "content creators". I watch videos. I watch a lot of videos. Probably 12+ hours a day of Youtube.

  • I use Blocktube on desktop to filter out all videos that are older than a week old.
  • I use SponsorBlock to block all ads on desktop.
  • I use uBlock Origin to block all ads everywhere.
  • I use ReVanced on Mobile to get sponsor block + ad block on my phone.
  • I use desktop notifications to be notified for certain Youtube channels.
I experience no issues. Nobody in this thread has expressed any issues that I can see. Just PEBCAK. I would suggest installing the above plugins and learning how to use them. I do not experience being unsubscribed from channels. I do not experience anti-adblock issues.
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I love YouTube
I love Youtube but the enshittification is real.

Judgmenl posted...
Blocktube
SponsorBlock
uBlock Origin

I use all of these plus:

YouTube Search Fixer - Removes video suggestions and other irrelevant sections from search results
DF Youtube - Removes some distractions like the recommended video side panel
Return YT Dislike - Returns dislike counts (I'm aware that it isn't totally accurate but it's better than nothing)
Youtube Shorts Block - Converts shorts into normal videos
Youtube High Definition - Forces the video player to use the highest resolution available
Youtube Comment Search - Makes comments searchable

I have some uBlock filters that make a few further tweaks as well, like making thumbnails smaller and removing that "includes paid promotion" banner from them.
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Judgmenl posted...
I couldn't give a crap about "content creators". I watch videos. I watch a lot of videos. Probably 12+ hours a day of Youtube.

* I use Blocktube on desktop to filter out all videos that are older than a week old.
* I use SponsorBlock to block all ads on desktop.
* I use uBlock Origin to block all ads everywhere.
* I use ReVanced on Mobile to get sponsor block + ad block on my phone.
* I use desktop notifications to be notified for certain Youtube channels.
I experience no issues. Nobody in this thread has expressed any issues that I can see. Just PEBCAK. I would suggest installing the above plugins and learning how to use them. I do not experience being unsubscribed from channels. I do not experience anti-adblock issues.

'I block 90% of all content but I don't understand why other people are having issues I've never noticed."
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Blue_Thunder posted...
I have some uBlock filters that make a few further tweaks as well, like making thumbnails smaller and removing that "includes paid promotion" banner from them.
Yea I had a thumbnail fix that I created myself, but it seems to have disappeared through installs. The current thumbnails are a problem and I really need to fix them.
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Blue_Thunder posted...
I love Youtube but the enshittification is real.

I use all of these plus:

YouTube Search Fixer - Removes video suggestions and other irrelevant sections from search results
DF Youtube - Removes some distractions like the recommended video side panel
Return YT Dislike - Returns dislike counts (I'm aware that it isn't totally accurate but it's better than nothing)
Youtube Shorts Block - Converts shorts into normal videos
Youtube High Definition - Forces the video player to use the highest resolution available
Youtube Comment Search - Makes comments searchable

I have some uBlock filters that make a few further tweaks as well, like making thumbnails smaller and removing that "includes paid promotion" banner from them.

Thanks muchly. These are great.
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speaks volumes when id rather watch the darkness for 5 seconds then one of those obnoxious ads
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Seriously guys, why aren't you using uBlock Origin?
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I don't use youtube or any user-generated streaming platform anymore. I just watch shows on hulu, netflix, etc.

Its ridiculous what is actually allowed on youtube when you think about. Upload a song or video clip from a show and its taken down for copyright infringement. Upload the audio from a real gore video or go into explicit detail about what happens in it, how to find it, etc. that's perfectly A-ok!
obligatory reminder that Dailymotion and Vimeo exist.
Yeah, their monopoly is the only thing holding them up at this point. TikTok and Twitch are too specialized, and DailyMotion and Vimeo haven't been relevant competitors to YT in years.

I watch BitView and PeerTube, but they're small, and the former is specialized as a "retro" version of YT.

I use uBlock Origin on Firefox, and it works like a charm.
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Blue_Thunder posted...
I love Youtube but the enshittification is real.

I use all of these plus:

YouTube Search Fixer - Removes video suggestions and other irrelevant sections from search results
DF Youtube - Removes some distractions like the recommended video side panel
Return YT Dislike - Returns dislike counts (I'm aware that it isn't totally accurate but it's better than nothing)
Youtube Shorts Block - Converts shorts into normal videos
Youtube High Definition - Forces the video player to use the highest resolution available
Youtube Comment Search - Makes comments searchable

I have some uBlock filters that make a few further tweaks as well, like making thumbnails smaller and removing that "includes paid promotion" banner from them.
I was thinking of downloading an extension that forced it always to be HD instead of fucking 480p, but I thought it just had something to do with my jank linux OS.

Yeah YouTube sucks ass, but to live is to suffer. My biggest issue with Youtube right now is that they heavily promote positive comments, so all the top comments are always creepy parasocial "I love the way xgamer657 laughs we would be the greatest friends". If I ran a channel like that I would tell my audience to absolutely not act like that.
Yellow posted...
If I ran a channel like that I would tell my audience to absolutely not act like that.

You'd probably find yourself on the wrong end of the algorithm for doing so. As insipid as the "like comment and subscribe!" in every video is, that's something that creators have to include to stay on the algorithm's good side, since otherwise they don't end up with enough engagement to stay relevant.
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adjl posted...
You'd probably find yourself on the wrong end of the algorithm for doing so.
Yet, a two minute video of nothing but a blue fish got a million and a half views within a couple days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3cryiz8nJo

The problem with youtube and similar platforms is that they intentionally string along hopefuls who aren't famous yet, but maybe could be by praying to the Mighty Algo hard enough.
Questionmarktarius posted...
Yet, a two minute video of nothing but a blue fish got a million and a half views within a couple days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3cryiz8nJo

The problem with youtube and similar platforms is that they intentionally string along hopefuls who aren't famous yet, but maybe could be by praying to the Mighty Algo hard enough.

Occasionally, things go viral all on their own and that's enough to catch the algorithm's attention. Broadly, though, yes, less successful creators have to take pretty much every advantage they can get if they want to stand on even ground with the millions of others doing exactly the same thing in hopes of catching the algorithm's limited attention.
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if you have an android phone, get YouTube revanced

if you have a TV that runs android/Google TV/fire os or a bespoke box that does, get smart tube

if you have or use roku, playlet.
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adjl posted...


Occasionally, things go viral all on their own and that's enough to catch the algorithm's attention. Broadly, though, yes, less successful creators have to take pretty much every advantage they can get if they want to stand on even ground with the millions of others doing exactly the same thing in hopes of catching the algorithm's limited attention.


Even the successful ones use clickbait titles and thumbnails.
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Questionmarktarius posted...
obligatory reminder that Dailymotion and Vimeo exist.
Those two sites are very small blips on the radar. The latter isn't really worth going to and the former isn't much different than YouTube.
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Youtube is great if you are a user and have something in place to block ads.

If you are a content creator: Suck it up, buttercup. It isn't going to change and people aren't going to migrate en-mass to your random platform.
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Revelation34 posted...
Even the successful ones use clickbait titles and thumbnails.

Yep. That's partially because that's just the brand they've built up on the road to success, and partially because they do still need to appease the algorithm to remain successful.
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adjl posted...
partially because they do still need to appease the algorithm
I don't think "the algo" is looking for dumbass youtube face.
It likely does, however, count clickthroughs on random "recommendation", which dumbass youtube face and "you won't believe!" titles are specifically engineered to accomplish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4FuOi9rvKw
at the very least, ProZD just looks like that, without needing an uncanny contorted facial expression.
adjl posted...


Yep. That's partially because that's just the brand they've built up on the road to success, and partially because they do still need to appease the algorithm to remain successful.


Well it's things like using an AI generated kidnapping thumbnail on a "I stopped a kidnapping" video when the actual video doesn't contain a kidnapping.
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