The FAMOUS Youtuber Cr1tikal is really HATING the Switch 2!! Do you agree?

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Poll of the Day » The FAMOUS Youtuber Cr1tikal is really HATING the Switch 2!! Do you agree?
Damn_Underscore
04/09/2025
11:02 PM
#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJNdCRyOZ9w

He sounds legitimately angry in the beginning. He gets millions of views per video so this might not be good for Nintendo
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JixHedgehog
04/09/2025
11:12 PM
#4
The only thing that stinks more than the Switch 2 situation is that guy
MICHALECOLE
04/09/2025
11:19 PM
#5
Nintendo can do whatever they want to me

theyre my video game daddy Ill buy it and say thank you
Salrite
04/09/2025
11:20 PM
#6
I don't care for Critikal as a person very much anymore, but I do find myself often agreeing with his takes on video games. He did a similar thing with the upcoming Pokemon game and of course got a lot of backlash from Pokemon fans, but he's not wrong. The game does look horrible in a lot of ways and a huge step back from the previous Legends game.

I haven't watched this Switch 2 video of his, but I have been seeing a lot of pushback since the announcement from a lot of people, particularly with the pricing. And I one hundred percent agree with it.
Salrite
04/09/2025
11:39 PM
#7
Holy shit, Nintendo is actually locking buttons on the controller behind a paywall!? I knew Nintendo was greedy but not like that!
Revelation34
04/10/2025
12:56 AM
#8
The issue is getting nickel and dimed on the game prices with bullshit tariff excuses.

They obviously were already planning on raising game prices to absurdity even before that.

JixHedgehog posted...
The only thing that stinks more than the Switch 2 situation is that guy


I know they look like they're twins but you're thinking of Asmongold.
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DirtBasedSoap
04/10/2025
01:11 AM
#9
Based off what Ive seen, the $450 price point was actually pretty reasonable considering the specs. $90 physical copies of games can eat shit though
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TheGuiltySpark
04/10/2025
02:17 AM
#10
I'm keeping my Switch 1, skipping the next generation, and maybe all future generations if they keep the game pricing structure as they have it now.

I mostly game PC anyway.
ConfusedTorchic
04/10/2025
03:28 AM
#11
there's literally nothing wrong with the switch 2 price

the people who think that the switch 2 should somehow be cheaper than the still $300 switch 1 are fucking insane though
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Revelation34
04/10/2025
07:00 AM
#12
ConfusedTorchic posted...
there's literally nothing wrong with the switch 2 price

the people who think that the switch 2 should somehow be cheaper than the still $300 switch 1 are fucking insane though


Read the posts again.
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SilentSeph
04/10/2025
07:42 AM
#13
The console price is fine, the game prices are buns but I buy games pretty sparingly nowadays so it won't hurt too much. Charging for the Welcome Tour tech demo is lol
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ultra_magnus13
04/10/2025
08:12 AM
#14
DirtBasedSoap posted...
Based off what Ive seen, the $450 price point was actually pretty reasonable considering the specs. $90 physical copies of games can eat shit though

If games had kept pace with inflation they would be well over $100 by now.
?huh?........ it's just a box.
papercup
04/10/2025
08:54 AM
#15
The console price, while higher than I expected (I expected $400) is still perfectly reasonable considering I bought a $500 PS5. $80-$90 or more for a single game is completely unreasonable.
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papercup
04/10/2025
09:00 AM
#16
Also have they said how much Switch 1 game upgrades cost? I always figured they would be paid, but like $10. But theyre probably going to be like $20 or $30 arent they.
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DevilSummoner
04/10/2025
09:40 AM
#17
papercup posted...
Also have they said how much Switch 1 game upgrades cost? I always figured they would be paid, but like $10. But theyre probably going to be like $20 or $30 arent they.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-confirms-10-price-tag-for-zelda-switch-2-upgrade-packs/1100-6530664/

$10 for BoTW/TotK

or free if you have an NSO membership. Other titles don't have an upgrade price yet.
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adjl
04/10/2025
10:04 AM
#18
ultra_magnus13 posted...
If games had kept pace with inflation they would be well over $100 by now.

The issue with this thinking is that wages haven't kept pace with inflation, so if games had kept up with inflation, their cost would represent a greater percentage of people's disposable income. Prices have remained stagnant mostly to respond to this, pursuing other forms of extra revenue like DLC and microtransactions that are less likely to cause people to buy fewer games (often by manipulating people into not realizing how much they're spending, but that's another discussion). The tools for making games have also evolved considerably, which has helped to keep development costs from keeping up with inflation.

That said, some degree of price increase for games is pretty inevitable, and while the PS5/XS increase to $70 was more a matter of "we've run out of places to hide microtransactions and the only way we can keep making our numbers grow faster is by increasing MSRP" than anything genuinely necessary, it wasn't altogether unexpected. Similarly, while I would have liked for Nintendo to stay the course on $60, I'm not surprised that they've moved up given that they haven't been wringing every possible cent out of their games with extra monetization. Charging $80 for some games isn't ideal, by any means, but I'd honestly rather see them charge $80 for a handful of larger/higher-profile titles than stuff their games full of microtransactions while pretending they're still just $60. I have a lot more respect for "this is what our game costs, take it or leave it" than I do for "our game costs $60, but don't you think you'd have more fun if you gave us an extra $5 every few hours to get rid of this random annoyance that we totally didn't put in here ourselves?".

Unfortunately, Nintendo having taken the plunge on $80 will absolutely result in other publishers following suit now that Nintendo has blazed that trail, even though those other publishers can't claim that they haven't already been getting quite a bit more than that extra $10-20 from recurrent monetization. That's just how the game industry do, and the only thing we can really do about it is buy fewer full-price games.

DevilSummoner posted...
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-confirms-10-price-tag-for-zelda-switch-2-upgrade-packs/1100-6530664/

$10 for BoTW/TotK

or free if you have an NSO membership. Other titles don't have an upgrade price yet.

I'm inclined to guess that it'll also be $10 for MP4 and Pokemon ZA, since they're pretty much just performance boosts, but I won't be surprised if it's more for games like Kirby and Mario Party that are actually getting new content/major functionality with the upgrade.
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agesboy
04/10/2025
11:18 AM
#19
DirtBasedSoap posted...
Based off what Ive seen, the $450 price point was actually pretty reasonable considering the specs. $90 physical copies of games can eat shit though
mario kart world, the most expensive game announced, is $80 physical/$70 digital ($10 higher than the donkey kong game at $70/$60). where are you getting $90 from
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papercup
04/10/2025
11:51 AM
#20
Oh yeah $10 for the Zelda games is pretty reasonable. And yeah Kirby is adding a lot of new content, so it might be $20 or $30
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CyborgSage00x0
04/10/2025
12:20 PM
#21
agesboy posted...
mario kart world, the most expensive game announced, is $80 physical/$70 digital ($10 higher than the donkey kong game at $70/$60). where are you getting $90 from
It was a rumor based on some fabricated screenshot, IIRC. There are no $90 games.
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agesboy
04/10/2025
01:04 PM
#22
afaik it was people posting prices in different currencies. which can be a fair complaint on its own but you can't list it next to USD prices
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bachewychomp
04/10/2025
03:14 PM
#23
There's lots of stuff I'm not thrilled about with the Switch 2, but I'll just say once again, these guys who churn out daily videos trying to capture the pulse on a current hot topic are so fucking lame

By extension, these topics are lame too. I wish they never quarantined CE so that shit could stay on there
Damn_Underscore
04/10/2025
03:20 PM
#24
bachewychomp posted...
There's lots of stuff I'm not thrilled about with the Switch 2, but I'll just say once again, these guys who churn out daily videos trying to capture the pulse on a current hot topic are so fucking lame

These topics are lame too. I wish they never quarantined CE so that shit could stay on there

Current Events talks about ongoing events every day which this topic is doing

On the other hand, Poll of the Day talks about different questions every day which this topic is also doing
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bachewychomp
04/10/2025
03:43 PM
#26
Ya never mind fuck it

It's all silliness
Damn_Underscore
04/10/2025
03:48 PM
#27
I saw your last post

I think the popularity of Cr1tikal especially in this instance reflects how others are feeling. If this mass hate/unhappiness continues it could be bad for Nintendo financially. Like how the reaction to Microsoft's stupid and greedy decisions killed the Xbox One and forced M$ to make big changes
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bachewychomp
04/10/2025
03:53 PM
#28
I think if Nintendo struggles it will mostly be due to a lack of consumer confidence during a time with tumultuous economic conditions. A lot of the commentary around this is just summing up what people were already thinking. I dunno, for me it's like how much analysis and commentary do we really need, I saw the news myself and thought "oh bummer this stuff is kind of expensive" and moved on mentally

Of course, I can't talk that much shit because here I am posting on GameFAQs on 2025, but the amount of noise on the internet makes it harder and harder to sift through to find genuinely interesting and insightful stuff. I find these videos to mostly be noise, personally. As I've said, having (generally/mostly) good opinions on something doesn't make it good or valuable
Blightzkrieg
04/10/2025
06:20 PM
#29
450 is a completely reasonable price for a console in 2025 I don't get the big deal

If that's too much, maybe exhibit some degree or financial responsibility and skip it?
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ToadstoolPeach
04/10/2025
08:10 PM
#30
I kinda agree this feels like a WiiU situation for Nintendo. Having to pay to use a controller button does feel diabolical and kinda weird for the cooler looking piranha plant camera to just be 480p in 2025.

Lots of questionable business decisions. I'm just grabbing some popcorn and watching the whole mess play out.
KalloFox34
04/10/2025
08:40 PM
#31
The console is fine. The game prices are insane and deserve the criticism.

Either way, while I like and respect Cr1TiKaL, I stay away from rant or review videos as a whole.
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adjl
04/11/2025
12:09 PM
#32
ToadstoolPeach posted...
Having to pay to use a controller button does feel diabolical

It's less having to pay to use the button and more having to pay to use the service that the button accesses. Framing it as paying to use the button is like saying that Netflix charges you to use the icon that opens the service: You can click that button/icon all you want, but it opens a paid service and you aren't going to get anything out of doing so unless you've paid for that service. That's a really weird way to frame things that just strikes me as people trying to find things to exaggerate for the sake of jumping on the hate bandwagon.

It's in the same vein as people freaking out that you need an NSO subscription to be able to buy one of the NES or SNES controllers: Yes, it's kind of weird that you need a subscription to be allowed to buy a controller, but it's a controller that's only useful for playing the NES or SNES games on the Switch that you require an NSO subscription to access. There's no reason to want one unless you're already subscribed to the service. The C button exists solely to access GameChat. If you aren't paying for GameChat, why care about not being able to use the button that exists solely to access it?
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ConfusedTorchic
04/11/2025
12:50 PM
#33
probably because then you have a useless button on the controller
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CyborgSage00x0
04/11/2025
01:22 PM
#34
ConfusedTorchic posted...
probably because then you have a useless button on the controller
Then don't press it?
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ConfusedTorchic
04/11/2025
01:33 PM
#35
we would still be at the part with having a button that does nothing on my controller

locking game chat behind a subscription is whatever, i don't care about that since it's pretty damn normal with the other consoles having done that for decades at this point

it's the fact that it's taking up a physical button on the controller that is specifically the issue
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adjl
04/11/2025
02:49 PM
#36
ConfusedTorchic posted...
probably because then you have a useless button on the controller

And? It's not like that's a part of the controller where real estate is particularly valuable. It'll marginally increase manufacturing costs, but otherwise is taking nothing away from the controller's ability to function normally.
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Damn_Underscore
04/11/2025
02:54 PM
#37
To be honest he is correct at the beginning, if the company making this wasn't Nintendo they would NOT have all these people standing up for them on the internet
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Extreme_light
04/11/2025
03:29 PM
#38
ConfusedTorchic posted...
we would still be at the part with having a button that does nothing on my controller

locking game chat behind a subscription is whatever, i don't care about that since it's pretty damn normal with the other consoles having done that for decades at this point

it's the fact that it's taking up a physical button on the controller that is specifically the issue

I agree that a paywall for buttons is stupid but useless buttons have always existed too
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CyborgSage00x0
04/11/2025
04:21 PM
#39
ConfusedTorchic posted...
we would still be at the part with having a button that does nothing on my controller

locking game chat behind a subscription is whatever, i don't care about that since it's pretty damn normal with the other consoles having done that for decades at this point

it's the fact that it's taking up a physical button on the controller that is specifically the issue
So basically what TV remotes have been doing the last 10 years or so, with added "Netflix" buttons and whatnot. It's not like a button was sacrificed at the expense of this new button.

This is basically the same thing as the PS5 "create" button. Whereas the PS5 button opens a menu for streams and stuff you can only do with a PSO subscription AND non-subscription stuff like screenshots, the Joy Cons have separate buttons for screenshots and recording (Left con) and subscription required stuff (Right Con new C button).

Like seriously, you're making big deal of nothing. If anything, it's faster than the PS5 create button, since you don't need to enter a menu of subscription stuff to do non-subscription stuff; just choose the button for what you want on the Switch 2 controllers).
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ReturnOfFa
04/11/2025
04:51 PM
#40
Damn_Underscore posted...
To be honest he is correct at the beginning, if the company making this wasn't Nintendo they would NOT have all these people standing up for them on the internet
???? Other things change in price and go up in price rather frequently
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ReturnOfFa
04/11/2025
04:54 PM
#41
Everyone demanded a more powerful Switch for years, and now that it's announced at a price point UNDER current comparable tech, everyone's bitching.
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bachewychomp
04/11/2025
05:39 PM
#42
The discourse around video game pricing has always been dumb because on the one hand gamers are some of the most obnoxious whiners who act so entitled all the time that it makes even their legitimate complaints hard to take seriously, and on the other hand nobody as a consumer wants to pay more money for something or be the person to defend a corporation

I think Nintendo should be criticized for things like charging for a tech demo and game updates that unlock the performance. Charging for a camera peripheral, $450 console, $80 game - that's all whatever to me, the arguments just seem to boil down to "it would be better for me as a consumer if stuff cost less", which is like yeah no shit
Ferron
04/11/2025
07:07 PM
#43
bachewychomp posted...
I think Nintendo should be criticized for things like charging for a tech demo and game updates that unlock the performance. Charging for a camera peripheral, $450 console, $80 game - that's all whatever to me, the arguments just seem to boil down to "it would be better for me as a consumer if stuff cost less", which is like yeah no shit

You think they should spend dev time upgrading things for free?
adjl
04/11/2025
07:58 PM
#44
bachewychomp posted...
I think Nintendo should be criticized for things like charging for a tech demo and game updates that unlock the performance.

Charging for the tech demo is more funny to me than anything else. Like that's just obviously not a good idea. Nobody's really going to be missing out if they choose to skip it, so I expect it to sell horribly.

Charging for upgrades is kind of a given, though. It's a bit questionable if all the upgrade entails is tweaking settings in the original games that unlock their performance, but if there's work involved in upgrading the performance beyond just "we're increasing the framerate limit," it's fair to charge for that. Really, given the number of games in recent years that have had remastered versions released a generation later at full price, $10 or $20 or whatever to upgrade your existing copy of a Switch game isn't altogether outrageous. There's room to argue that "Nintendo isn't doing anything as bad as rereleasing TLoU every other year" isn't actually a positive so much as it's just less negative, but they still end up looking pretty good by comparison.

It also remains to be seen how well Switch 1 games get emulated. If the emulation isn't great, then the upgrade patches gain more value, both to the consumer and in terms of what it took to produce them. If the emulation is good enough that the stronger hardware means you end up with fewer framerate dips, then that means there's less incentive for people to buy upgrades just for performance reasons.
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ConfusedTorchic
04/11/2025
08:31 PM
#45
CyborgSage00x0 posted...
So basically what TV remotes have been doing the last 10 years or so, with added "Netflix" buttons and whatnot. It's not like a button was sacrificed at the expense of this new button.

which is specifically why i don't use those remotes, it's bullshit that there are buttons i paid for but cannot use.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...
This is basically the same thing as the PS5 "create" button. Whereas the PS5 button opens a menu for streams and stuff you can only do with a PSO subscription AND non-subscription stuff like screenshots

i press that button for a screenshot, hold it for video. i don't see any menus for it, least of which is a menu saying i can't use it unless i pay to unlock it.

again, the issue is that it's a physical button on the controller that you have to pay a subscription to use.
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adjl
04/11/2025
11:55 PM
#46
ConfusedTorchic posted...
which is specifically why i don't use those remotes, it's bulls*** that there are buttons i paid for but cannot use.

What remotes do you use, then?
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ConfusedTorchic
04/12/2025
02:00 AM
#47
a logitech harmony remote
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Revelation34
04/12/2025
05:58 AM
#48
ultra_magnus13 posted...


If games had kept pace with inflation they would be well over $100 by now.


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TheSlinja
04/12/2025
10:12 AM
#49
games were never gonna be 60 forever, thats not the world and economy we live in, ps5 already raised it to 70 , its only a big deal now because nintendo actually makes games for their console
ill be buying most of my games digital since apparently most of them will still be 60 (?)
everything is expensive and i just want the dollar menu back
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adjl
04/12/2025
11:26 AM
#50
ConfusedTorchic posted...
a logitech harmony remote

Like one of the ones with a configurable touch screen? You're whining about wasting money on unused buttons on a $10 regular remote, so you bought a $100+ programmable one?

And here I thought I could lean on clever rebuttals like pointing out that the number and channel change buttons on your remote were useless without a cable subscription, or even that the power button only works if you pay your power bill. I didn't think you'd make it this easy for me. Of course, I was ultimately going to settle on "if you're in a position where it makes any amount of sense to be concerned about the pennies a single extra button costs to include in a controller, spending $450 on a console should probably be off the table to begin with," but you've done a pretty good job of invalidating the value angle yourself.
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ConfusedTorchic
04/12/2025
12:37 PM
#51
the good thing about a harmony remote, is that you keep using it even after buying new things that replace what the remote was originally used on, so spending i think around $50, because i bought it used several years ago, is a good investment for me

that being said, logitech recently dropped support for first gen harmony devices, and stopped even making the remotes for like 5 years now, so i'll likely end up needing to find a replacement option down the line

note that i never complained about

adjl posted...
"if you're in a position where it makes any amount of sense to be concerned about the pennies a single extra button costs to include in a controller, spending $450 on a console should probably be off the table to begin with,"

this. i complained that it requires a subscription to use, and thus, is useless. the cost of adding it probably doesn't even equal a penny on nintendos end, it's the principal of locking a hardware button behind a subscription

if it was just a customizable hotkey, but defaulted to gamechat out of the box, i would be fine with that. in fact, i'd be fine with that being an option on included and replacement oem tv remotes, too. but they're not.
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