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Heard about this too. Turns out, the prisoner gets to sit down now as opposed to standing, and it happens indoors. I always thought firing squads were an open-air thing (especially because of the increased dangers of ricochet).

Roachmeat posted...
I always thought firing squads were an open-air thing (especially because of the increased dangers of ricochet).

They're using a frangible bullet, which shatters when it strikes a hard object like a concrete wall.
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The room that they are doing this in was likely specially constructed for the purpose, with bullet-resistant glass and reinforced backstop.
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he got 23 more years than his victims got. unfair.
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the death penalty should be voluntary; I mean, it doesn't work as a deterrent and 40 years of appeals doesn't please the families of the victim, so why bother at all? A voluntary death penalty would reduce the number of suicides by a large margin - especially in religious areas that put a huge 'sin' on it.
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pedro45 posted...
Can hardly wait for the day society realizes justice is better done through rehabilitation.
Rehabilitation should be a 1st resort for sure, but there are some people that can't be fixed, some are so bad that they are better off dead, and that's why I think it should stick around but just for the worst of the worst
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Muscles posted...
but there are some people that can't be fixed

As decided by whom? Outside of cases where the person is a proven flight risk or otherwise has made it clear that nothing short of death is enough to keep society safe from them, of course. Even then, though, that's not "can't be fixed," it's "can't be fixed safely."
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pedro45 posted...
Can hardly wait for the day society realizes justice is better done through rehabilitation.
Even though rehab justice has been proven to produce safer communities, reduce recidivism, is cheaper and generally more humane than punitive justice, this is something that Americans will find difficult to swallow for a long time because it goes against our core ethos.

Americans reject the notion of basing our actions on a desired outcome, rather we focus on promoting the principles behind the action. This is, of course, through the lens of expecting all Americans to take personal accountability for their choices in respect to individual rights.

In the case of punishment prisons rather than rehab prisons, it is because we consider a crime to be an offense to the American people itself and that offense must be repaid. The benefits of rehab justice doesn't really matter when our populace wants revenge. "Why do people who choose to commit a crime deserve to get therapy? They deserve to suffer for their choice."

It's a similar reason as to why we spend more money preventing the so-called "undeserving" from getting government benefits than we would actually spend on government benefits if there weren't so many checks in place. Because the idea of the undeserving getting our tax dollars is offensive to us.

It's actually quite screwed up.

As an aside, the rejection of building systems to achieve a specific outcome lies in the background of most Americans' minds but if you ever talk to a libertarian, they will outwardly and vocally reject the notion of building systems to achieve a specific outcome. Instead they hold strong to a specific doctrine by which all power must be administered regardless of what the outcome of that system is. If they enforce the NAP and the result is exploitation, then that is simply what market mechanics do and interfering with that would violate the principles of the free market and the NAP.
I dont care about the death penalty in principle, some people are horrible and totally deserve to die.

the problem is we put to death so many people who didnt do the things theyre accused of. I think there should be multiple types of guilty. There should be not guilty, guilty, and super ultimate guilty, which is like guilty with a video and dna evidence and 20 witnesses and a confession. Without all of those things then the death penalty should be off the table
Muscles posted...

Rehabilitation should be a 1st resort for sure, but there are some people that can't be fixed, some are so bad that they are better off dead, and that's why I think it should stick around but just for the worst of the worst


It's a huge waste of money.
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Revelation34 posted...
It's a huge waste of money.

Death for the cost efficiency!
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SinisterSlay posted...
he got 23 more years than his victims got. unfair.
Those were not enjoyable years. Hopefully you can take solace in the fact he probably suffered immensely by being in prison.
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pedro45 posted...
Can hardly wait for the day society realizes justice is better done through rehabilitation.

Yeah go ahead try to rehabilitate a guy who beat his Girlfriends parents to death with a bat, then kidnapped and shot her.

You can't make people feel empathy or true regret, not without 1984 levels of torture brainwashing, which people would see as just as bad.

They should have done this 23 years ago when he got convicted and saved money, time and resources.

Sure rehabilitate Hard drug users or petty criminals, but not cold-blooded murderers such as this.
If I was on death row and got to choose the method I would definitely choose firing squad.
Being dead in a few seconds from spray of bullets is better than the torture of the other methods. The reports from lethal injection of being botched are downright horrifying.
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Ferarri619 posted...
If I was on death row and got to choose the method I would definitely choose firing squad.
Being dead in a few seconds from spray of bullets is better than the torture of the other methods. The reports from lethal injection of being botched are downright horrifying.
Ditto
Ferarri619 posted...
If I was on death row and got to choose the method I would definitely choose firing squad.
Being dead in a few seconds from spray of bullets is better than the torture of the other methods. The reports from lethal injection of being botched are downright horrifying.

Why not double up? Go for the guillotine and have a firing squad shoot your freefalling head before it hits the basket

edit: of course the most humane option would be hydraulic crushing. 2 tons of force liquifying you in a timespan shorter than the speed of nerve conduction. But ooooo - "Big Death" needs a body to upsell coffins.
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The most humane option would be inhalation of pure nitrogen gas. The sensation of suffocation is caused by the human body's ability to detect excess carbon dioxide, not an absence of oxygen, so you'd never feel a thing. Accidental suffocation due to inert gas happens a lot , and usually the person never knew what hit them. You lose consciousness after about 2 or 3 breaths, and you're dead a few minutes later.

While many gases could be used, such as hydrogen, helium, argon, neon, xenon, or methane, nitrogen is the cheapest and safest. Nitrogen already makes up 78% of the earth's atmosphere, so 100% nitrogen would never be noticed. It has no odor or taste, it has no unusual effects on the body, no lasting effects due to accidental exposure if the victim is removed immediately, it's non-reactive and non-flammable, and it's so inexpensive we fill tires with it.

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Ferarri619 posted...
If I was on death row and got to choose the method I would definitely choose firing squad.

Electric chair for me, even though I hate it enough when I touch metal door handles and get shocked.

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