I have a gaming confession I need to make

The rumors about me are true. Ive never played Stardew Valley

papercup posted...

The rumors about me are true. Ive never played Stardew Valley

I've played Stardew Valley, but I've never played a Dark Souls/Soulsbourne game.

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rjsilverthorn posted...

I've played Stardew Valley, but I've never played a Dark Souls/Soulsbourne game.

Ouch. Start with one and you'll know in 1 day's time if you want to continue.

SrRd_RacinG posted...

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Ouch. Start with one and you'll know in 1 day's time if you want to continue.

I've seen enough by now to know I'm not really interested. I got that kind of self abuse out of my system back in the NES/arcade days. I play games to have fun, not as part of some e-penis measuring competition.

papercup posted...

The rumors about me are true. Ive never played Stardew Valley

You should do it.



rjsilverthorn posted...

I've seen enough by now to know I'm not really interested.

This. I don't think you need to play Dark Souls or Soulslikes to know whether or not you're interested. Frustration gaming isn't everyone's cup of tea.

The only souls like game I played was Jedi fallen order and I sucked at that on medium.

I'm too old to git gud, at this point I'm just trying to stay subpar

Dark Souls review explains why you SHOULDN'T play it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gG754VYlw

rjsilverthorn posted...

I play games to have fun, not as part of some e-penis measuring competition.

you can coop everything and just bash faces in unfairly, noone worth caring about is gonna judge you for it. i never really had fun with the series before dark souls 3 where i said fuck it and summoned all the time. i'm bad but sorcery spam fun and cheap

in elden ring you can summon an exact copy of yourself to fight alongside you and man. let me tell you that thing can solo the game for you

rjsilverthorn posted...

I play games to have fun, not as part of some e-penis measuring competition.

Ironically, going out of your way to say how you're above Souls Games is more of an e-penis measuring take than just enjoying a challenge.

Is it worse to not have played it, or worse to just not really like it much? Cuz I played it for over 20 hours and it was kinda boring ngl

Salrite posted...

Ironically, going out of your way to say how you're above Souls Games is more of an e-penis measuring take than just enjoying a challenge.

Not really. The joy of Dark Souls is in getting your teeth smashed in 99 times out of 100, so that when you finally have that moment of success you get the huge rush of adrenaline and relief for finally having conquered the threat. The feeling of accomplishment because you've basically "solved" the riddle of how to beat the threat by memorizing its patterns and reacting appropriately. Some people get off on that, some people don't.

For people who don't enjoy it, it might be because they don't enjoy how bad the first 99 tries make them feel. Some may simply not have the time nor the patience to play enough to "git gud" in the first place. Some people may be too impulsive to really enjoy the delayed gratification. Some might simply prefer the little rush of satisfaction regularly over time rather than that huge blast at the end (hence why cozy games have become so popular). None of those people are really wrong for feeling that way. Nor should they feel like they're be better off trying to force themselves to.

It's not a boast to say you don't like something. It's really only a flex to say no one should enjoy Dark Souls because it's stupid and bad. It's the difference between putting yourself above other people as opposed to putting yourself off to the side.

Personally, I can't stand platformers as an adult. That doesn't mean that I think they're all bad and that people are stupid for playing them. But it does mean that I'm never really going to enjoy a good platformer the way someone else will (or even the way I did when I was a kid and had more time/patience for that sort of thing). It's not what I want out of gaming. And that's fine .

Everyone's got genres they like and ones they don't. No one game (or genre) is going to have universal appeal. Nor does it need to. And people shouldn't feel like they need everyone else to love their personal favorite game in order to validate themselves. People can dislike the things you like and you don't need to feel threatened by that, or lash out and tell them how terrible they are for not "getting it".

I confide in the Dark Souls hate train. I like Arkham games because you can set the difficulty really hard, get really good at the first half of the game, and then one shot the second half of the game with the skills you learned. Dark Souls is just a grind-fest and you just have to memorize the boss attack patterns and die until you do. If you're a veteran you will die as much as a new player on a new boss. It's not my kind of game. It's also just not fun and frustrating to die over and over like that, and I don't get the dopamine hit from beating a boss because I don't feel like it was satisfying. It would be satisfying if I beat it sooner and improved on my previous best time beating a boss.

Ahh, I'm so cool, I dislike a game. This obviously makes me cool. I play through half of it and lose interest. The art is cool though.

Also you're lucky to be able to play Stardew Valley for the first time.

I tried Stardew valley, not my kind of game.

Never played a Dark Souls game. Haven't played a FromSoftware game since the PS2 era. I have likely played a bunch of "Soulslike" games, but that just is basically a modern way of saying "difficult game" from what I can tell...

Yellow posted...

If you're a veteran you will die as much as a new player on a new boss.

Ehh, not really. There's plenty of bosses a veteran can oneshot if they hang back for like a minute to learn patterns, or actually try to shield unfamiliar patterns instead of rolling everything. Dark Souls is a series about learning, but it's entirely feasible to learn mid-fight. Everything's telegraphed, and if you're playing safe you probably won't get hit even if it's a new move.

I'd be surprised if people who beat Dark Souls 1 and 2 even die twice to Iudex Gundyr, the first boss of 3, and I'd be equally surprised if a newcomer beat it in under 30 minutes.

I have a lot of experience with soulsborn games. The only boss that killed me in Shadow of the Erdtree was the last one. Once you play those games enough you pretty much know exactly what to expect.

Stardew Valley is a good tike waster and one of the few cosy games I like. Second would be Kitara Fables.

I have no intrest in Souls Games.

Some people threw shit fits at me because I am not a fan of Smash Bros.

I've never balded a gate

Lokarin posted...

I've never balded a gate

you should bald a sky instead

https://store.steampowered.com/app/741140/Baldr_Sky/

I've never either.

I played A Link to the Past for about 5 minutes on the snes in '96 and never touched another Zelda after.

Yellow posted...

If you're a veteran you will die as much as a new player on a new boss

This is demonstrably false, if this was the case I'd never have blown through Sekiro and 100% it in exactly 50 hours total playtime with one of my 4 runs being almost completely deathless.

agesboy posted...

I'd be surprised if people who beat Dark Souls 1 and 2 even die twice to Iudex Gundyr, the first boss of 3, and I'd be equally surprised if a newcomer beat it in under 30 minutes.

Yeah I beat him my first try, wasn't even the Pyromancer.

The difficulty of Souls games is ludicrously overblown by newcomers and tryhards looking to seem cool, if they were as hard as people tend to think they are they wouldn't be nearly as popular.