The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom

Poll of the Day

Poll of the Day » The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom
Been playing for a couple hours now, it's fun. I'm glad you can start on Master Mode right away. Only complaint is scrolling through the list of Echoes
Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious.
its already out?

edit: damn, it came out last Friday. probably the first zelda game I havent bought at launch since twilight princess
im gay
I've heard it has the Scribblenauts problem, where you have all these options but all you really need is a jetpack and rocket launcher.
What would Bligh do?
Almost picked up a japanese copy, but decided against it
http://cdn-android.apptap.com/img/870/mobi.colortrilogy.bitlink/267135850.png
https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/5/uv4r7nGyrE6ylt2lHGWpiQ2.gif
DirtBasedSoap posted...
its already out?

edit: damn, it came out last Friday. probably the first zelda game I havent bought at launch since twilight princess
Actually it's official release date is tomorrow so you can continue your streak

Zareth posted...
I've heard it has the Scribblenauts problem, where you have all these options but all you really need is a jetpack and rocket launcher.
I can see it getting to that point. I already have 35 Echoes and there are quite I few I haven't used since learning them. But there is a slight balance to it as each Echo requires a certain amount of energy to summon and you start with 3 max. So even if you find a strong Echo early, but it requires 5 energy, then you won't be able to use it right away

Ogurisama posted...
Almost picked up a japanese copy, but decided against it
English version is right around the corner!
Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious.
it's boring as fuck

why does it drop hella frames just walking around with nothing happening, how is this game more demanding than everything else on the switch, i don't understand how it drops to 15fps by walking around.
see my gundams here
https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r
updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom
Yeah there's a lot of frame drops and stutters, which was apparently also an issue with the Link's Awakening remake (I haven't played that one). It's not a deal breaker for me but it's definitely noticeable
Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious.
Zareth posted...
I've heard it has the Scribblenauts problem, where you have all these options but all you really need is a jetpack and rocket launcher.

*dead baby
You think you've Got problems?
https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT
is it okay if I make some criticisms of the game even though it's a Zelda game?
*flops*
Beveren_Rabbit posted...
is it okay if I make some criticisms of the game even though it's a Zelda game?
Sure, but the fans will conjure pot echoes and throw them at you
Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious.
*puts up flame shield*
*flops*
Beveren_Rabbit posted...
is it okay if I make some criticisms of the game even though it's a Zelda game?

I mean, some of us have been saying that Zelda's sucked since Link to the Past and that Ocarina was overrated as fuck, and no one's set us on fire yet, so you're probably fine.
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
I'm not a fan of the art style. Just like Link's Awakening, tbh the original (or DX GBC version) was superior.
On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?
I bet you say that to all the boys...
Zareth posted...
I've heard it has the Scribblenauts problem, where you have all these options but all you really need is a jetpack and rocket launcher.

To be fair, that's kind of inevitable in sandbox-ish games. It's virtually impossible to give players effectively limitless options but also balance those options perfectly (especially if you want them to be more than just reskins of each other), and if the options aren't perfectly balanced, players will optimize the fun out of the game. The same happened with TotK, in that aside from some specific building challenges (like the Spirit Temple ), the only vehicle you ever really need is a hoverbike.

It's really, really hard to make a game that gives players significant freedom while also directly rewarding them for using that freedom. If you do too much to reward unusual solutions, you effectively force players to use them. If you do too little, there's no in-game incentive to use them. As such, the appeal of sandbox games is generally less that you have to exercise that freedom to beat the game and more that you have options to dick around on your own terms while doing so. They're games that are meant to be played *with*, more so than played *through*.
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
i overclocked my switch and the game doesn't perform like butt juice just walking around now
see my gundams here
https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r
updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom
ConfusedTorchic posted...
overclocked my switch
Nintendo would like to know your location
What would Bligh do?
I'm having fun with it. There are many creative uses of echos you can use to solve puzzles. There are a few puzzles that use the mechanics in really fun and unique ways.

Most of the puzzles though can be pretty simply brute forced using a small handful of echos.

One of my funniest moments though was I came across a level 3 darknut boss early on and it was murdering me and I had no way to heal. I eventually blocked off a small area using 3 rocks, and made a wooden bed. the darknut had to stand there and watch me heal. I then sent 1 star echos over some rocks to slowly kill it one hit at a time

On that same note, some echo combinations are just as broken for traversal as the TotK hover bike. I suspect I've inadvertently skipped entire sections of dungeons and map traversal by just realizing "Oh hey I have this echo that sends me straight up a ways and an echo that sends me straight forward a ways, what happens if I combine the two!"

Also there is this one echo that works like an elevator but you can stack them on top of each other endlessly for infinite height in order to get so high you can hit the skybox.
Switch Code: SW-5421-8761-9807 IGN: Chris
Pokemon Home Friend Code: XSNF-XRED-EWDK 3DS:5112-3770-6561
Zareth posted...
Nintendo would like to know your location
nintendo can eat my earwax
see my gundams here
https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r
updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom
this games world really is just link to the pasts world, like actually

everything on the map is the same even if it's still technically different.

this little bit of land i'm on right now was links house's spot, i was just at that platform with the three heads for the desert temple, kakariko is in the same spot, and i just noticed that that water building in the field below links house is also still in this game when i looked at the map just now

it's like link to the past but like 200 years in the future or some shit
see my gundams here
https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r
updated 08/01/24; hg mighty strike freedom
Not that far yet, but I have been having lots of fun with it. Only complaint, combat isnt great
http://cdn-android.apptap.com/img/870/mobi.colortrilogy.bitlink/267135850.png
https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/5/uv4r7nGyrE6ylt2lHGWpiQ2.gif
I'm on the 5th dungeon now and I honestly think this is the best combat in a topdown Zelda game. Zelda can be pretty active and aggressive in combat and I'm not even talking about Swordfighter Mode. I've been having fun launching endless Ropes, Caromadillos, Mothulas, etc. at enemies as those types of echoes dart out in attack mode immediately so they're basically projectiles. Plus other fun things like binding enemies and dragging them to hazards, water, or bottomless pits, or binding a Ball & Chain Trooper echo and charging into a crowd of enemies. There's a lot of nifty ways to approach battles and puzzles
Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious.
i like the necromancer approach of just spawning guys to do all the combat. i think im getting towards the end but overall the game has a lot of action
Poll of the Day » The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom