Avengers 5 to star Robert Downey Jr

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Blightzkrieg
07/27/2024
11:13 PM
#1
As Doctor Doom

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Arcturusisnow
07/28/2024
01:24 AM
#2
I don't know. This feels more like a misdirect and Dr. Doom will be fighting the Avengers as Superior Iron Man. Superior Iron Man was a series where Dr. Doom took on the mantle of Iron Man for a bit
Zareth
07/28/2024
01:40 AM
#3
I hope Deadpool fights him and calls him Tony the whole time
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dragon504
07/28/2024
01:44 AM
#4
On its face this seems dumb.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/28/2024
02:04 AM
#5
dragon504 posted...
On its face this seems dumb.

So like most of the MCU post-Endgame then.
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ConfusedTorchic
07/28/2024
02:05 AM
#6
i think it's going to be a multiversal shift where tony stark instead became dr doom

which would be a take on the infamous iron man series by bendis

or they will never, ever, show his face and modulate his voice to be not quite the same

or hell, at this point i wouldn't be surprised if all of a sudden it's revealed tony was working on an ultra secret project that he stored away because it was too dangerous and he wasn't about that life anymore, and it turns out to just be an iron man suit reminiscent of the vision, using ai that is designed to be him so it's his voice

i don't know, this is so fuckin stupid. it'd be like if they hired chris evans for the new human torch, so that he would have played human torch, captain america, and then the human torch again while interacting with all of his regular people and they just never comment on the fact this guy on fire is identical to their old buddy. hell, they could have just retconned johnny, he's actually caps and whatsherfaces son or grandson, that's why he looks identical!
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Zareth
07/28/2024
04:40 AM
#7
ConfusedTorchic posted...
or they will never, ever, show his face and modulate his voice to be not quite the same
Why even say it's Robert Downy Jr then?
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ConfusedTorchic
07/28/2024
04:50 AM
#8
i mean it would just be a james spader as ultron situation, where you can still just make out who the voice is
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Lokarin
07/28/2024
05:23 AM
#9
i don't think this can save the movie, fantastic 4 just sucks as a movie concept
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Melody_JR
07/28/2024
06:37 AM
#10
Im hoping this is a Tony from another universe that Dr doom somehow overtook and is using as a pawn and the real Victor comes out later.
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adjl
07/28/2024
09:44 AM
#11
ConfusedTorchic posted...
or they will never, ever, show his face and modulate his voice to be not quite the same

Paying for RDJ and then not using his face or voice would be quite a waste. Dude's expensive.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/28/2024
10:17 AM
#12
adjl posted...
Paying for RDJ and then not using his face or voice would be quite a waste. Dude's expensive.

Paying him for a couple of scenes/PR opportunities and then having the rest be FX probably would save some money though. That way you get the fan hype you want without having to pay his full wage.

But it's not like Disney has seemed all that adverse to throwing money away or making stupid decisions lately. And this reeks of panicked desperation, so they probably haven't put all that much thought into it yet.
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ConfusedTorchic
07/28/2024
10:51 AM
#13
listening to the naysayers of disney, you'd come to the conclusion that disney has been in dire straits for decades

everything they do is apparently always "panicked desperation"

and yet they somehow always seem to be just fine
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Damn_Underscore
07/28/2024
12:06 PM
#14
They aren't in dire straits financially but they are in dire straits quality-wise. Will that ever lead to them being in dire straits financially like they were in the 70s and 80s? Who knows
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GameLord113
07/28/2024
12:10 PM
#15
ConfusedTorchic posted...
listening to the naysayers of disney, you'd come to the conclusion that disney has been in dire straits for decades

everything they do is apparently always "panicked desperation"

and yet they somehow always seem to be just fine
I think its more so that the Marvel movies use to be sure thing billion dollar money makers but now not so much. I can see why people are calling this a desperation move because Disney is hoping RDJ can reignite that spark the movies once had like he did with Iron Man originally. Its like James Cameron going back to Linda Hamilton thinking that is what the Terminator movies were missing, but just like that, I think this decision will flop as well.
wwinterj25
07/28/2024
04:38 PM
#16
Could have just recast Kang...
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Nichtcrawler-X
07/28/2024
04:43 PM
#17
wwinterj25 posted...
Could have just recast Kang...

Nah, just leave that open ended till Majors is an option again.
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wwinterj25
07/28/2024
04:49 PM
#18
I don't think that'll ever happen given what he was charged with. Disney is a PG company and stuff.
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Nichtcrawler-X
07/28/2024
04:51 PM
#19
He was sentenced to a rehabilitation programme and probation right? He was not even given any prison time.
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Zareth
07/28/2024
05:12 PM
#20
Damn_Underscore posted...
They aren't in dire straits financially but they are in dire straits quality-wise.
"Dire straits quality-wise" isn't a thing. Otherwise McDonald's and Walmart would've went bankrupt ages ago.
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ConfusedTorchic
07/28/2024
11:50 PM
#21
Damn_Underscore posted...
but they are in dire straits quality-wise
this isn't a thing.

their quality has always consistently gone up or just stayed the same for a long while.

they've always had flops, always, but they actually have less flops the past decade than they did the decade prior, and that one before that.

and what successes they do have, are very successful. the majority are successful as well, but to a lesser degree than, say, frozen or inside out. there isn't much that doesn't make some sort of profit, is what i'm saying.

personally, when people say "the quality sucks now" it just makes me think that they have just simply outgrown the type of stuff disney makes. i personally prefer finding nemo to frozen and i do not like frozen, but it's hard to argue with just how much bigger frozen was compared to nemo, despite them both being similar movies in terms of theming.

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ConfusedTorchic
07/28/2024
11:52 PM
#22
to add: star wars die hards love to scream until they pass out that disney ruined star wars.

star wars is the most successful it has ever been in its entire history. clearly, they are doing something right despite the angry fanboys screaming about whatever current star wars things ruins everything in established star wars history
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Damn_Underscore
07/29/2024
12:05 AM
#23
If people continue to watch blockbusters with a ton of CGI and special effects then they will continue to make money. That well could run dry though and a lot of their recent movies lack substance

I don't hate Disney but they have had better eras
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Blightzkrieg
07/29/2024
03:08 AM
#24
I'd argue they have a quantity problem more than a quality problem right now, or at least they did (they've slowed down the last couple years). They were putting out more than was necessary to meet demand.
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Zareth
07/29/2024
03:09 AM
#25
Damn_Underscore posted...
If people continue to watch blockbusters with a ton of CGI and special effects then they will continue to make money.
China sure loves them and doesn't show any sign of stopping anytime soon
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ConfusedTorchic
07/29/2024
03:22 AM
#26
people go apeshit for a michael bay movie
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magemaximus
07/29/2024
03:47 AM
#27
hope he isn't playing as a tony stark who is playing as doom
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Blightzkrieg
07/29/2024
03:51 AM
#28
Zareth posted...
China sure loves them and doesn't show any sign of stopping anytime soon
Eh, Hollywood film releases in China are a lot more restricted than they used to be and are competing with a much stronger domestic film industry.

I think Marvel's days in China are numbered. Eventually they'll be straight up banned.
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TigerTycoon
07/29/2024
12:10 PM
#29
Evil Iron Man isn't anything new, and while I'm not opposed to the movie concept, I have no confidence whatsoever in Disney being able to execute it competently based on how they're currently being run.
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Nichtcrawler-X
07/29/2024
12:42 PM
#30
ConfusedTorchic posted...
to add: star wars die hards love to scream until they pass out that disney ruined star wars.

star wars is the most successful it has ever been in its entire history. clearly, they are doing something right despite the angry fanboys screaming about whatever current star wars things ruins everything in established star wars history

Usually when something with a small but dedicated fanbase goes fully mainstream, it does tend to change, in ways that might not be liked by those original fans.

Look at say Code Geass, season 1 is definitely mostly its own rather unique thing, but season 2 was altered in such a way compared to S1 as to appeal the more mainstream mecha audience.
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Blightzkrieg
07/29/2024
12:44 PM
#31
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Damn_Underscore
07/29/2024
01:26 PM
#32
Star Wars movies already weren't good by the time George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney, the real horrible thing Disney did was close off the Star Wars IP to almost everyone, whereas before we had a ton of Star Wars content from many different sources.
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Blightzkrieg
07/29/2024
06:54 PM
#33
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adjl
07/29/2024
07:26 PM
#34
Blightzkrieg posted...
I'd argue they have a quantity problem more than a quality problem right now, or at least they did (they've slowed down the last couple years). They were putting out more than was necessary to meet demand.

This is the real issue I have, at least with the MCU. There's been a ton of stuff post-Endgame that I'm definitely interested in and expect that I would enjoy, but there's so much of it and it all has prerequisites and/or a commitment to a broader storyline such that it's hard to get myself to start any of it. It's really the same problem I've always had with comics, which is that I've always had the impression that casually getting into them would miss out on too much to be really enjoyable, but to really dig into them is a monumental task because there's nearly a century of content to wade through (in some cases). In both cases, I'm sure that if I just sat myself down and forced myself to get started, I'd figure out how in-depth I wanted to get and have a good time, but the pre-emptive FOMO and desire to make sure I give the media a proper chance are hurdles that I don't have to get over for most other things I could do to entertain myself, so I just do something else instead. Repeat two months later when another interesting Marvel thing comes out and the body of work to get through gets even larger (though as you say, they've slowed down a bit and I probably could catch up if I tried).
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dedbus
07/31/2024
05:12 PM
#35
I'm super excited for him to be featured in all the trailers and promo material and end up being a bit part like Professor X in Dr strange or the after credits to Avengers 1. Or better yet some Thor style asguardian play.
Zareth
07/31/2024
10:10 PM
#36
dedbus posted...
I'm super excited for him to be featured in all the trailers and promo material and end up being a bit part like Professor X in Dr strange or the after credits to Avengers 1. Or better yet some Thor style asguardian play.
Apparently they're paying him at least 80 million for it, so I doubt this very much
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Count_Drachma
07/31/2024
10:32 PM
#37
dragon504 posted...
On its face this seems dumb.

On its back, too.

Even taking away the fact RDJ played one of the MCU's most famous characters, the role isn't a great match.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
So like most of the MCU post-Endgame then.

Even Endgame wasn't great and featured a lot of bafflingly stupid decisions, even before it decided to get rid of certain characters.

wwinterj25 posted...
Could have just recast Kang...

The Kang stuff had mostly sucked anyway. One-off villain? Okay. All that build just looked goofy, though.

wwinterj25 posted...
I don't think that'll ever happen given what he was charged with. Disney is a PG company and stuff.

They gave James Gunn a job again.
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ConfusedTorchic
07/31/2024
11:06 PM
#38
Count_Drachma posted...
The Kang stuff had mostly sucked anyway. One-off villain? Okay. All that build just looked goofy, though.

one off? he was in multiple movies and shows as an antagonist of some sort.

hell, loki season 2 was entirely about him.

he had literally more build up than thanos before they dropped him.
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Count_Drachma
08/01/2024
07:57 PM
#39
ConfusedTorchic posted...
one off? he was in multiple movies and shows as an antagonist of some sort.

hell, loki season 2 was entirely about him.

he had literally more build up than thanos before they dropped him.

No, I was saying he would've been okay as a one-off villain.
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