ParanoidObsessive posted...
I watched a video recently that suggested that the main flaw with both fourth wave feminism and "manosphere" ideology is that they're both inherently narcissistic and selfish. They basically boil down to saying that you are the only thing that matters and that everyone and everything else can essentially burn unless it serves your own interests.
In other words, the main problem with most modern female protagonists (especially in Marvel movies) is that they're essentially the exact sort of people who would be villains in any other era. They're unlikable, unsympathetic, self-centered narcissists who cannot see a world beyond their own needs and desires. They're not "strong women", they're assholes.
tbh, I can see it. And the idea does seem like the natural consequence of those following the previous ideologies to their logical conclusion.
Sadly it matches up pretty well with a lot of stuff created over the last decade or so. And fits in well with the growing individualism of Western Culture in general (and part of me wants to try and find a way to blame it on the rise of social media, which has pushed the idea that not only does everyone have a voice, but that voice
matters
- and is often seen as the
only
thing that matters).
I feel like that particular aspect isn't necessarily new, although the "virtue" of pointing oneself first has gone from being seen as a tricky subject in non-Western media to sometimes being positioned without any nuance, the same way it's often handled in the West.
And while social media's me-me-me culture might have an impact, I'd put most of the onus on special interest groups and the government, whose involvement in society has increasingly encouraged the break-up of the family unit, etc. Even after SCOTUS legalized gay marriage in the US, the marriage rate has continued to fall and is the lowest it's been in US history and, iirc, the trend has continued worldwide. And, rather unsurprisingly, the drop started in the 1970s when the government created incentives for couples to either split or not marry (and then the impact of those policies kept things dropping even further during the 1980s).
slacker03150 posted...
I posted it in a different topic but not in this one. This is a list of the movies they skipped when celebrating their legacy.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8bcdd2d4.jpg
Yeah, it's bizarre they'd include Fantasia 2000 at all. And while I can *maybe* understand leaving out The Black Cauldron since that was when they had some financial difficulties and a portion of the studio split over the film's handling, why the Rescuers films? Especially when the Rescuers kinda spawned a spinoff show.